Message from @༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻

Discord ID: 423875431947567124


2018-03-15 15:25:26 UTC  

MIDDLE CLASSES => KSHATRIYA

2018-03-15 15:25:34 UTC  

OTHER => THEIR HOME CONTINENTS

2018-03-15 15:25:48 UTC  

DEMOCRACY IS HIV+

2018-03-15 15:36:33 UTC  

Feudalism wouldn't be feasible now since firearms and explosives could be built in garages. The elite can't exactly bulldoze or bomb it's productive economy in response to domestic insurgency against its power. This is a historical constant anyway. Feudalism died with the advent of firearms and further back with the advent of pikes.

2018-03-15 15:37:53 UTC  

Besides the industrial elite would absolutely abhor feudalism since it places ownership in the hands of a monarch who gives title to people to run stuff.

2018-03-15 15:38:18 UTC  

And that trickles down to the mass of proles

2018-03-15 15:41:30 UTC  

perhaps Kevlar would maintain the balance of power required for feudalism

2018-03-15 15:48:55 UTC  

That feudalism died thanks to pikes is banal historicist reductionism that libertarians are fond of

2018-03-15 15:49:04 UTC  

Russia and Japan had feudalism up to the 19th century

2018-03-15 15:50:23 UTC  

But right now, every possibility of problem-solving, in a global sense, is removed. People cannot focus on intellectual and existential goals, I mean people who should exist in the first place, because crowd control is a too overwhelming task

2018-03-15 15:50:40 UTC  

Earth is overpopulated, and economical elites are simply cynical know-nothings

2018-03-15 15:58:52 UTC  

Uh yeah Russia took longer to conscript serfs and industrialize

2018-03-15 16:02:29 UTC  

near as I can tell they only would have had makeshift weapons

2018-03-15 16:07:07 UTC  

Tokugowa banned guns and the peasants didn't know how to make them

2018-03-15 16:07:14 UTC  

Russia and Japan had feudalism because they didn't industrialize until they were basically forced to by the Communists/Admiral Perry

2018-03-15 16:07:23 UTC  

After that they dumped the old strictures and caught up pretty rapidly

2018-03-15 16:08:27 UTC  

Also medieval European feudalism lasted longer than pikes since armed knights need a combination of them and projectile weapons to take down

2018-03-15 16:09:07 UTC  

The Cruz being that Lord's who armed their peasant populations often beat Lord's who didn't

2018-03-15 16:09:13 UTC  

Crux

2018-03-15 16:09:20 UTC  

cruz missile incoming

2018-03-15 16:09:38 UTC  

Aimed directly for close relatives

2018-03-15 16:10:31 UTC  

Political beliefs don't invalidate a person's thinking. It's like saying Spengler was wrong because he was a conservative

2018-03-15 16:12:04 UTC  

More specifically regarding his profound understanding of historical cycles

2018-03-15 16:13:38 UTC  

there is a lot of myth there

2018-03-15 16:14:29 UTC  

Russia did not posses large industrial base, but it had industry, which after all was necessary for war effort. Russia had a somewhat thin railroad network, unlike Austria, Germany and France

2018-03-15 16:14:48 UTC  

Japan was opposed to *trade*

2018-03-15 16:15:05 UTC  

Americans came to force Japan to import foreign goods, much like with Chinese

2018-03-15 16:17:01 UTC  

As far as historical cycles are concerned, *mobility* ended feudalism

2018-03-15 16:17:14 UTC  

Russia collapsed in the instant of allowing *labor* to become a thing

2018-03-15 16:18:43 UTC  

Mostly because Nicholas II was a devout Christian, and not basically a Right Wing MechaHItler that many of his loyal supporters were. He was a bad decision maker, but he had chance of winning and saving Russia from full proletarian overtake, which Civil war proves

2018-03-15 16:21:45 UTC  

Obviously mobility is another factor but what does that have to do with what I was talking about

2018-03-15 16:21:53 UTC  

Mass conscription hardly made Russian army better, which was considered quite fierce and efficient in the old days, when it would be bludgeoning Turks, French and Prussians

2018-03-15 16:22:23 UTC  

What I mean to say is that feudalism did not end because some 500 peasants repelled a cavalry charge somewhere in FLanders

2018-03-15 16:22:32 UTC  

thats the typical reductionism

2018-03-15 16:23:19 UTC  

the world-historic, political and material is underestimated in the whole affair. those "breaking points" are never to be found in any single event

2018-03-15 16:24:37 UTC  

What actual difference does it make? If you can find a good reason why something happened that doesn't mean it was the Only Cause.

2018-03-15 16:26:37 UTC  

Yes, but what HAS Happened ? Can you tell me ?

2018-03-15 16:26:51 UTC  

This is what I mean by a sloppy approach in historical study

2018-03-15 16:27:25 UTC  

When you start answering that question, you see that this whole thing "liberation of serfs" is hardly a single, discernible historical event

2018-03-15 16:27:50 UTC  

I already mentioned stuff that has happened

2018-03-15 16:28:14 UTC  

Banning cars a la mobility is easy since most people can't make one for themselves