Message from @Jossi

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2018-04-17 23:12:01 UTC  

So much drama

2018-04-17 23:12:46 UTC  

True

2018-04-17 23:12:50 UTC  

I made the mistake today of being curious about some Baked Alaska/Metokur spat, and watched some of the recorded stream

2018-04-17 23:12:57 UTC  

Huge waste of everything

2018-04-17 23:14:37 UTC  

Don't even know who metokur is

2018-04-17 23:15:01 UTC  

I generally pay attention to what weev has to say tho

2018-04-17 23:15:49 UTC  

Yeah, he does have worthwhile things to say

2018-04-17 23:19:04 UTC  

It seems like every alt-right or related public figure has either made a serious acusation against another, or has been the subject of one, and there is an interlocking network of acusations such that there's no way to disentangle it and even pick a "side", because within any subset of alt-right figures there is some animosity between at least two of them

2018-04-17 23:20:25 UTC  

I suppose some degree of this is to be expected; normal people don't talk about these taboo topics, so it's left to the real weridos

2018-04-17 23:30:19 UTC  

I don't mean to be dismissive of weev's article, maybe he's right, but I'm just going to sidestep the whole issue by not "trusting" Internet celebrities or pretending they're leaders and instead I'll support and promote the good things they say when they say them

2018-04-17 23:47:12 UTC  

the strength is to not have leaders

2018-04-17 23:47:29 UTC  

we can have all the Alt Right High School drama we want, ti's fun. it's a social scene too

2018-04-17 23:47:34 UTC  

but no leaders to be targeted

2018-04-17 23:49:29 UTC  

the leaders are exactly who need to be targetted

2018-04-17 23:49:41 UTC  

since most of them are idiots like cantwell

2018-04-17 23:53:43 UTC  

There should be a distinction between thought leaders, movement leaders, and organizational leaders

2018-04-17 23:54:16 UTC  

And they should be held to high standards, but specifically standards that are relevant to their position

2018-04-17 23:56:14 UTC  

Everyone is flawed, but some flaws are bigger vulnerabilities and hindrances than others, and some are more critical in some roles than others

2018-04-18 00:05:57 UTC  

reading what weev wrote about hunter wallace and cantwell makes me want to purge both of them. smdh and i don't care if i get called an elitist, we have to have some behavioral standards for the ethnostate

2018-04-18 00:17:27 UTC  

I feel the same thing, but we don't have an ethnostate to purge them from

2018-04-18 00:18:04 UTC  

So what would they be purged from?

2018-04-18 00:18:30 UTC  

relevance

2018-04-18 00:20:20 UTC  

Right, but how?

2018-04-18 00:21:34 UTC  

My personal preference would be that Serious Acusations should be to the point and mostly just expositions of the clear evidence to back them up

2018-04-18 00:24:42 UTC  

Saying someone is an FBI informant is a specific claim and the reasons for the claim can be given

2018-04-18 00:26:23 UTC  

That's different from, for example, the vague accusations I've seen leveled at Spencer, where a photo of him with two asian girls is presented as somehow discrediting him

2018-04-18 00:27:50 UTC  

i dont trust any of these internet celebrities to be honest

2018-04-18 00:28:11 UTC  

and weev suggesting i should be brutally killed doesn't help me like him any more

2018-04-18 00:29:02 UTC  

right now it's best to let the "alt-right" quiet down and be reborn in a few years

2018-04-18 00:29:08 UTC  

the current crop of leadership all sucks or bores me

2018-04-18 00:29:13 UTC  

Right, and why do we need to trust them? Even if they say good things, why does agreeing with them require trusting them?

2018-04-18 00:29:28 UTC  

Are internet celebrities leading anything?

2018-04-18 00:29:34 UTC  

well, yes, but nothing they say is ever all that new to me, at least

2018-04-18 00:29:42 UTC  

i mean brett is far better than any of them on that

2018-04-18 00:29:47 UTC  

and leadership wise i'm not impressed

2018-04-18 00:31:19 UTC  

Some of the Internet celebritites have value in that they may help others come to truths. I don't see any attempts at leadership from them except in the sense of having many people who listen to them and read what they write, which doesn't require trust.

2018-04-18 00:32:04 UTC  

Something like Charlottesville last year did require trust though.

2018-04-18 00:33:37 UTC  

cville was supposed to be a big tent deal