aristocracy based on military achievement existed in the past and it didn't prevent corruption

@Kierketard it would be voluntary though

Pinochet stole 17 million lel

>voluntary
come on now

why is representative government not voluntary

@agag yes and the reason it did not prevent corruption was there was no loyalty to race

If you ask your mistress to have monopoly of force on you in bed, that's a lot better than rape.

it was simply state for state's sake

which creates a dialectical tension of the ruled vrs the rulers

what, you can just pack up and leave and go to some other society?

```If you ask your mistress to have monopoly of force on you in bed, that's a lot better than rape```

ns transcends this through the collectivist concept of race/volkish identity

bro

wherein all citizens are effectively "dealt in" to govt

because the concept of race post-dates the medieval era, replace it with loyalty to Christendom or something and you still see that "higher loyalties" failed to prevent corruption

they become part of the govt

everyone is one state

working towards one goal

ascendancy

@Quasi Yeah, there would be thousands of 'states' in the US under AnCap. The more local the better as it gives more choice.

>ask your mistress

```Yeah, there would be thousands of 'states' in the US under AnCap. The more local the better as it gives more choice.```
Until *Imperialism*

@agag loyalty to christendom worked for a while

until they turned their backs on the morals

no not really

Unless you believe in a one world government, the imperialist argument is a wash.

imo christendom is what prevented Europe from totally imploding after the empire's collapse

```until they turned their backs on the morals```
*cough* protestants

Statism doesn't stop war. In fact it promotes it.

it lasted like one crusade and then fell apart

```Statism doesn't stop war. In fact it promotes it.```
that's not the point

the point is that imperialism is inevitable

You objected to AnCap by bringing up imperialism

Yes

Unless you believe in a one world government

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@Vril-Gesellschaft you brought up good points, feels good to hear logical refutations for once

I've been pretty sold on Anarcho Capitalism for a while but your counterarguments make sense to me.

USA 1932 Idaho Potatoed is what I see everyone I see your name. @agag

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 thx m8