Message from @Quasi

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2018-10-18 15:46:48 UTC  

what you would call plutocrats are the guys who lobbied for Schacht to become minister of economics

2018-10-18 15:46:50 UTC  

you can't have corruption in Anarcho Capitalism by definition. You need a state.

2018-10-18 15:46:50 UTC  

true there would be corruption even in ns

2018-10-18 15:46:53 UTC  

but far less

2018-10-18 15:47:00 UTC  

since the aristocracy would be based on military achievement

2018-10-18 15:47:07 UTC  

state power would supercede money

2018-10-18 15:47:09 UTC  

yeah, like crime, but obviously we're talking about how *easy* it is for something be to corrupted

2018-10-18 15:47:26 UTC  

The replacement of the state with a private entity who has a monopoly on land, force, and production is no better. @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

2018-10-18 15:47:27 UTC  

aristocracy based on military achievement existed in the past and it didn't prevent corruption

2018-10-18 15:47:44 UTC  

@Kierketard it would be voluntary though

2018-10-18 15:47:50 UTC  

Pinochet stole 17 million lel

2018-10-18 15:47:58 UTC  

>voluntary
come on now

2018-10-18 15:48:00 UTC  

why is representative government not voluntary

2018-10-18 15:48:01 UTC  

@agag yes and the reason it did not prevent corruption was there was no loyalty to race

2018-10-18 15:48:05 UTC  

If you ask your mistress to have monopoly of force on you in bed, that's a lot better than rape.

2018-10-18 15:48:07 UTC  

it was simply state for state's sake

2018-10-18 15:48:15 UTC  

which creates a dialectical tension of the ruled vrs the rulers

2018-10-18 15:48:20 UTC  

what, you can just pack up and leave and go to some other society?

2018-10-18 15:48:26 UTC  

```If you ask your mistress to have monopoly of force on you in bed, that's a lot better than rape```

2018-10-18 15:48:28 UTC  

ns transcends this through the collectivist concept of race/volkish identity

2018-10-18 15:48:32 UTC  

bro

2018-10-18 15:48:40 UTC  

wherein all citizens are effectively "dealt in" to govt

2018-10-18 15:48:43 UTC  

because the concept of race post-dates the medieval era, replace it with loyalty to Christendom or something and you still see that "higher loyalties" failed to prevent corruption

2018-10-18 15:48:43 UTC  

they become part of the govt

2018-10-18 15:48:46 UTC  

everyone is one state

2018-10-18 15:48:48 UTC  

working towards one goal

2018-10-18 15:48:51 UTC  

ascendancy

2018-10-18 15:48:54 UTC  

@Quasi Yeah, there would be thousands of 'states' in the US under AnCap. The more local the better as it gives more choice.

2018-10-18 15:48:55 UTC  

>ask your mistress

2018-10-18 15:49:15 UTC  

```Yeah, there would be thousands of 'states' in the US under AnCap. The more local the better as it gives more choice.```
Until *Imperialism*

2018-10-18 15:49:18 UTC  

@agag loyalty to christendom worked for a while

2018-10-18 15:49:23 UTC  

until they turned their backs on the morals

2018-10-18 15:49:29 UTC  

no not really

2018-10-18 15:49:37 UTC  

Unless you believe in a one world government, the imperialist argument is a wash.

2018-10-18 15:49:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496515828372602890/502508565169307658/image0-2.jpg

2018-10-18 15:49:47 UTC  

imo christendom is what prevented Europe from totally imploding after the empire's collapse

2018-10-18 15:49:48 UTC  

```until they turned their backs on the morals```
*cough* protestants

2018-10-18 15:49:48 UTC  

Statism doesn't stop war. In fact it promotes it.

2018-10-18 15:49:52 UTC  

it lasted like one crusade and then fell apart

2018-10-18 15:50:03 UTC  

```Statism doesn't stop war. In fact it promotes it.```
that's not the point

2018-10-18 15:50:14 UTC  

the point is that imperialism is inevitable