Message from @Fading

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2019-04-15 12:49:29 UTC  

No

2019-04-15 12:49:35 UTC  

I didn't say the rocket would be _good_

2019-04-15 12:49:53 UTC  

We need to prove that gravity is a force independent of static electricity

2019-04-15 12:50:11 UTC  

Do we _really_ have to go back and do the Cavendish experiment?

2019-04-15 12:50:13 UTC  

That's lame as hell

2019-04-15 12:50:23 UTC  

i think that electric increase in height has something to do with it

2019-04-15 12:51:37 UTC  

@Fading You don't have to

2019-04-15 12:51:59 UTC  

hmmm

2019-04-15 12:52:17 UTC  

@Superiorna_Artiljerija we need to prove that is the case

2019-04-15 12:52:40 UTC  

By replacing the lead balls with a material inert to static electricity

2019-04-15 12:54:10 UTC  

Lead is a pretty bad conductor, is it not?

2019-04-15 12:54:38 UTC  

@Fading it's still a conducter

2019-04-15 12:54:55 UTC  

So you want to dispel all doubt by using something perfectly insulating?

2019-04-15 12:55:04 UTC  

We know it is gravity if we calculate a similar gravitational constant

2019-04-15 12:55:05 UTC  

No it's a good conductor hence why it's used in car batteries

2019-04-15 12:55:28 UTC  

It's used in car batteries for a battery reaction, not for it's conduction

2019-04-15 12:55:43 UTC  

It is static electricity if the gravitational constant we calculate is noticably different

2019-04-15 12:56:05 UTC  

redox reaction* not battery reaction, sorry it's been a while since org chem

2019-04-15 12:57:18 UTC  

@Human Sheeple I assume you're talking about lead-acid batteries?

2019-04-15 12:58:10 UTC  

Lead has a conductivity of 4.55 x 10^6 S/m at 20 degrees C

2019-04-15 12:58:18 UTC  

Ah okay not as low as I thought

2019-04-15 12:58:19 UTC  

That's one order of magnitude LESS than copper

2019-04-15 12:58:57 UTC  

However Teflon has a conductivity of 10^-25 S/m which makes Lead 31 orders of magnitude better conductivity

2019-04-15 12:59:03 UTC  

hi good morning Human

2019-04-15 12:59:25 UTC  

nice

2019-04-15 12:59:35 UTC  

So if we use the same mass for the balls and they attract at the same speed it proves gravity and disproves Sheeple's 6 law

2019-04-15 12:59:58 UTC  

I kind of came into this discussion late so all I really now is we're not trusting the Cavendish experiment for some reason

2019-04-15 13:00:06 UTC  

Something to do with electricity I guess

2019-04-15 13:00:35 UTC  

Which is cool, who is gonna build the apparatus?

2019-04-15 13:01:04 UTC  

@Fading Sheeple suggests that the Cavendish experiment is not a result of gravity but the rods nearing the lead balls via static electricity

2019-04-15 13:01:53 UTC  

The Cavendish experiment is alright though keep in mind that usually you ought to work with no external forces such as friction or torque which isn't always the case

2019-04-15 13:02:17 UTC  

@The Gwench Send full pfp please

2019-04-15 13:02:17 UTC  

ha i was watching Arwijn show too

2019-04-15 13:03:26 UTC  

@Bannebie can you clarify what you mean by "work with no external forces"?

2019-04-15 13:03:52 UTC  

@Fading Sheeple wants me to do it in the dark too lol

2019-04-15 13:04:14 UTC  

Didn't Cavendish also do it in a pretty isolated thick enclosure which was then inside a building he stood outside of?

2019-04-15 13:04:26 UTC  

Aka ideal environment. The classic *weightless string, no friction, assume π=3* stuff

2019-04-15 13:04:47 UTC  

So how exactly would you do that, considering that is precisely what you said, _ideal_ ?

2019-04-15 13:05:05 UTC  

Lead balls are the only problem according to Sheeple and that can be easily accommodated for

2019-04-15 13:05:39 UTC  

Also aren't there better versions of the Cavendish experiment anyway? My education is hazy but i thought it was improved upon later

2019-04-15 13:06:10 UTC  

well if they changed it, it couldn't hide anything