anecdotal, true, illogical, how so ?

this is being reduced to absurdity

after a certain number of anecdots, you can determine a general tendancy, how is that illogical ?

does that respresent every single people of the said generation ? of course not...

does the tendancy is illogical ? I fail to see why ?

But that's exactly what you are saying, the current generation does not have x aspect. You are making a broad statement and assesment of a group that contains so many people in so many different contexts from their interactions with you from your personal experiance means nothing.

even if it did mean something there is still not reason to trustyour judgement

when you will visit a class of young students today (between 15 and 20y old, even till 20+), and see the behavior of the students in the 50-60s, you might be able to easily spot differences...

No you won't, objectively

it's not possible

the sample size is too small and specific

why not ?

sure, that's a sample, but you can repeat that ad infinitum

and see a tendancy

No you can't

because your students have demographic influences that both contribute to them ending up in your class and are a result of the context from which they come

ok, you can't

they will have extreme commonality between them

and even then

what argument can you provide that your judgement of them as individuals is sound even though your interaction with them is extremely limited

well as a teacher, I didn't see only my own students, I've traveled 5500 miles, and that's not even talking of the numerous of university I've been visiting in my own country

but still, that's considered a sample, you're right

there are so many factors that contribute to your assesment of them as a group based on your day to day interactions being wrong that it is entirely nonsensical to make any assesment of them at all on such a basis.

even so, you can take any sample of any school in the 50-60s, and you will never see the behavior that i've seen

Based on what knowledge?

that is even more pulled out of your ass

yes, totally pulled of my ass

pictures, videos, teacher testimonies of that time

how many classrooms did you visit in the 1960s? I bet it's even less than the current day ones

I have plenties

I concur that there are differences between generations

But to say something like the current one has less consideration for others is a load of bullshit

It comes from no other place than your interpersonal biases

well, my personnal point of view has biases, of course

and I wish you could prove me wrong

but for now, I'm going to keep that opinion of mine because based on what i've seen, it's pretty much accurate

maybe those young student will surpise me someday

Towelie you're seem to forget that people from the 60s had different influential factors than the people from the 50s and while of course every generation has had their own sort of delinquents, they're not all that different, are you basing respect off of teenagers or adults?

sure nrg, but at that time, corporal punishement would keep those delinquents in check

that was the main discussion in the beginning

It's incredibly irrational, based on historical accounts every generation has expressed simialer sentiment as you are now about the younger generation at the time. The same thing you are saying now about the current generation an older generation was saying about the generation you praise. It's just blind conservative regressionism, if we followed your sentiments all the way down history then eventually we'd be back in the stone age.