and even then

what argument can you provide that your judgement of them as individuals is sound even though your interaction with them is extremely limited

well as a teacher, I didn't see only my own students, I've traveled 5500 miles, and that's not even talking of the numerous of university I've been visiting in my own country

but still, that's considered a sample, you're right

there are so many factors that contribute to your assesment of them as a group based on your day to day interactions being wrong that it is entirely nonsensical to make any assesment of them at all on such a basis.

even so, you can take any sample of any school in the 50-60s, and you will never see the behavior that i've seen

Based on what knowledge?

that is even more pulled out of your ass

yes, totally pulled of my ass

pictures, videos, teacher testimonies of that time

how many classrooms did you visit in the 1960s? I bet it's even less than the current day ones

I have plenties

I concur that there are differences between generations

But to say something like the current one has less consideration for others is a load of bullshit

It comes from no other place than your interpersonal biases

well, my personnal point of view has biases, of course

and I wish you could prove me wrong

but for now, I'm going to keep that opinion of mine because based on what i've seen, it's pretty much accurate

maybe those young student will surpise me someday

Towelie you're seem to forget that people from the 60s had different influential factors than the people from the 50s and while of course every generation has had their own sort of delinquents, they're not all that different, are you basing respect off of teenagers or adults?

sure nrg, but at that time, corporal punishement would keep those delinquents in check

that was the main discussion in the beginning

It's incredibly irrational, based on historical accounts every generation has expressed simialer sentiment as you are now about the younger generation at the time. The same thing you are saying now about the current generation an older generation was saying about the generation you praise. It's just blind conservative regressionism, if we followed your sentiments all the way down history then eventually we'd be back in the stone age.

no need to go back to the stone age, the main topic was corporal punishement in the begining

something that disapeared where I live and where I teached

and that was present for older generations

I think respect for what our elders accomplished, and their work ethic and values, help shaped us to be in the state we are now

and a clear changement in behavior appeared

it's not regressive, it helps

it might be totally unfounded, but I can see that the result isnt the same than what our old generations had

maybe not a changement in behavior, maybe it's just that those behavior aren't repressed anymore

still, the result is far from being similar

I'm not calling for blindless punishment like you were describing earlier chaos... but more like appropriate, due and rightful 10" hand's slap in the face of student that disrespect the whole class by acting like jerks

With corporal punishment you're not teaching anyone respect and every parent knows this, you're only teaching them to despise you more to the point they don't give a shit what you have to say or what goal they want you to have. Don't force shit down our throats just because of your arbitrary beliefs. Chaos literally provided an example of this. To say the disappearance of corporal punishment is a result of what you see in millennials today with lack of respect and a false sense of reality is delusional. If you want people to have respect you have to teach them respect.

now I have to pray for a student to do the job himself, and pretend I didn't see anything 😄

it's not the role of the teacher to teach respect, at least, not college teacher like me

You think i give a shit what you think towelie

Just kidding towelie

😄 I'm kidding

but sometimes, a good old recallling of authority wouldn't do much damage

you shouldn't have to do that, especially not for highschool and college students