Message from @Towelie

Discord ID: 292227766730883072


2017-03-17 09:20:00 UTC  

you can't make any assesment of them

2017-03-17 09:20:39 UTC  

for sure I don't know them individually, but their general behavior is really far from the way i've been educated

2017-03-17 09:20:44 UTC  

The number comes from studies that estimated the average amount of people that a person can come into contact with and actually "know" although that definiton is not objective

2017-03-17 09:20:54 UTC  

but it's really irrellavent on that point

2017-03-17 09:21:06 UTC  

Lots of studies done on generations rlooking at their politics and economics and what not

2017-03-17 09:21:14 UTC  

that's a simple statement regarding what I've seen, not a general truth

2017-03-17 09:22:04 UTC  

still, I tend to believe that the behavior of the young generation nowadays is really far from the behavior of my parents and the people of their generation

2017-03-17 09:22:41 UTC  

What you've seen means nothing, you are making a statement of what you feel is the case, not what you have any ability to determine in any way. Basically your reason for believing the current generation has a certain temperament is purely anecdotal and illogical.

2017-03-17 09:23:16 UTC  

anecdotal, true, illogical, how so ?

2017-03-17 09:23:27 UTC  

this is being reduced to absurdity

2017-03-17 09:24:24 UTC  

after a certain number of anecdots, you can determine a general tendancy, how is that illogical ?

2017-03-17 09:25:05 UTC  

does that respresent every single people of the said generation ? of course not...

2017-03-17 09:25:24 UTC  

does the tendancy is illogical ? I fail to see why ?

2017-03-17 09:26:46 UTC  

But that's exactly what you are saying, the current generation does not have x aspect. You are making a broad statement and assesment of a group that contains so many people in so many different contexts from their interactions with you from your personal experiance means nothing.

2017-03-17 09:27:09 UTC  

even if it did mean something there is still not reason to trustyour judgement

2017-03-17 09:27:37 UTC  

when you will visit a class of young students today (between 15 and 20y old, even till 20+), and see the behavior of the students in the 50-60s, you might be able to easily spot differences...

2017-03-17 09:27:57 UTC  

No you won't, objectively

2017-03-17 09:28:07 UTC  

it's not possible

2017-03-17 09:28:18 UTC  

the sample size is too small and specific

2017-03-17 09:28:19 UTC  

why not ?

2017-03-17 09:28:48 UTC  

sure, that's a sample, but you can repeat that ad infinitum

2017-03-17 09:28:53 UTC  

and see a tendancy

2017-03-17 09:28:56 UTC  

No you can't

2017-03-17 09:29:31 UTC  

because your students have demographic influences that both contribute to them ending up in your class and are a result of the context from which they come

2017-03-17 09:29:34 UTC  

ok, you can't

2017-03-17 09:29:46 UTC  

they will have extreme commonality between them

2017-03-17 09:29:49 UTC  

and even then

2017-03-17 09:30:32 UTC  

what argument can you provide that your judgement of them as individuals is sound even though your interaction with them is extremely limited

2017-03-17 09:31:44 UTC  

well as a teacher, I didn't see only my own students, I've traveled 5500 miles, and that's not even talking of the numerous of university I've been visiting in my own country

2017-03-17 09:31:56 UTC  

but still, that's considered a sample, you're right

2017-03-17 09:32:14 UTC  

there are so many factors that contribute to your assesment of them as a group based on your day to day interactions being wrong that it is entirely nonsensical to make any assesment of them at all on such a basis.

2017-03-17 09:32:29 UTC  

even so, you can take any sample of any school in the 50-60s, and you will never see the behavior that i've seen

2017-03-17 09:32:40 UTC  

Based on what knowledge?

2017-03-17 09:32:49 UTC  

that is even more pulled out of your ass

2017-03-17 09:33:07 UTC  

yes, totally pulled of my ass

2017-03-17 09:33:25 UTC  

pictures, videos, teacher testimonies of that time

2017-03-17 09:33:25 UTC  

how many classrooms did you visit in the 1960s? I bet it's even less than the current day ones

2017-03-17 09:33:31 UTC  

I have plenties

2017-03-17 09:33:42 UTC  

I concur that there are differences between generations

2017-03-17 09:34:12 UTC  

But to say something like the current one has less consideration for others is a load of bullshit

2017-03-17 09:34:33 UTC  

It comes from no other place than your interpersonal biases