Message from @Chaos

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2017-03-17 09:18:53 UTC  

respect isn't limited to good consideration you have of other people, but it's still a good begining

2017-03-17 09:19:08 UTC  

yup

2017-03-17 09:19:13 UTC  

Also I think you are full of shit for thinking that the current younger generation has less consideration for others than any of the previous generations, what a load of shit. Where did you come up with that idea? At maximum it is possible for you to know and assess innacuratedly the personality and traits of about 200 people that you directly come in contact with. And you think you can make accurate statements about the temperament of an entire generation of people?

2017-03-17 09:19:21 UTC  

What a load of crap

2017-03-17 09:19:42 UTC  

I have 3500 students, where you 200 comes from ?

2017-03-17 09:19:48 UTC  

lol

2017-03-17 09:19:53 UTC  

You don't know them individiually

2017-03-17 09:20:00 UTC  

you can't make any assesment of them

2017-03-17 09:20:39 UTC  

for sure I don't know them individually, but their general behavior is really far from the way i've been educated

2017-03-17 09:20:44 UTC  

The number comes from studies that estimated the average amount of people that a person can come into contact with and actually "know" although that definiton is not objective

2017-03-17 09:20:54 UTC  

but it's really irrellavent on that point

2017-03-17 09:21:06 UTC  

Lots of studies done on generations rlooking at their politics and economics and what not

2017-03-17 09:21:14 UTC  

that's a simple statement regarding what I've seen, not a general truth

2017-03-17 09:22:04 UTC  

still, I tend to believe that the behavior of the young generation nowadays is really far from the behavior of my parents and the people of their generation

2017-03-17 09:22:41 UTC  

What you've seen means nothing, you are making a statement of what you feel is the case, not what you have any ability to determine in any way. Basically your reason for believing the current generation has a certain temperament is purely anecdotal and illogical.

2017-03-17 09:23:16 UTC  

anecdotal, true, illogical, how so ?

2017-03-17 09:23:27 UTC  

this is being reduced to absurdity

2017-03-17 09:24:24 UTC  

after a certain number of anecdots, you can determine a general tendancy, how is that illogical ?

2017-03-17 09:25:05 UTC  

does that respresent every single people of the said generation ? of course not...

2017-03-17 09:25:24 UTC  

does the tendancy is illogical ? I fail to see why ?

2017-03-17 09:26:46 UTC  

But that's exactly what you are saying, the current generation does not have x aspect. You are making a broad statement and assesment of a group that contains so many people in so many different contexts from their interactions with you from your personal experiance means nothing.

2017-03-17 09:27:09 UTC  

even if it did mean something there is still not reason to trustyour judgement

2017-03-17 09:27:37 UTC  

when you will visit a class of young students today (between 15 and 20y old, even till 20+), and see the behavior of the students in the 50-60s, you might be able to easily spot differences...

2017-03-17 09:27:57 UTC  

No you won't, objectively

2017-03-17 09:28:07 UTC  

it's not possible

2017-03-17 09:28:18 UTC  

the sample size is too small and specific

2017-03-17 09:28:19 UTC  

why not ?

2017-03-17 09:28:48 UTC  

sure, that's a sample, but you can repeat that ad infinitum

2017-03-17 09:28:53 UTC  

and see a tendancy

2017-03-17 09:28:56 UTC  

No you can't

2017-03-17 09:29:31 UTC  

because your students have demographic influences that both contribute to them ending up in your class and are a result of the context from which they come

2017-03-17 09:29:34 UTC  

ok, you can't

2017-03-17 09:29:46 UTC  

they will have extreme commonality between them

2017-03-17 09:29:49 UTC  

and even then

2017-03-17 09:30:32 UTC  

what argument can you provide that your judgement of them as individuals is sound even though your interaction with them is extremely limited

2017-03-17 09:31:44 UTC  

well as a teacher, I didn't see only my own students, I've traveled 5500 miles, and that's not even talking of the numerous of university I've been visiting in my own country

2017-03-17 09:31:56 UTC  

but still, that's considered a sample, you're right

2017-03-17 09:32:14 UTC  

there are so many factors that contribute to your assesment of them as a group based on your day to day interactions being wrong that it is entirely nonsensical to make any assesment of them at all on such a basis.

2017-03-17 09:32:29 UTC  

even so, you can take any sample of any school in the 50-60s, and you will never see the behavior that i've seen

2017-03-17 09:32:40 UTC  

Based on what knowledge?

2017-03-17 09:32:49 UTC  

that is even more pulled out of your ass