It caused suffering for those who deserved it, not everyone like monarchism did

I think that's something called scape goating a specific group of people in order to propel your political ideology

suffering for a specific group of people is still suffering.

suffering is suffering no matter if someone "deserved" it

It fixed all the problems created by that group and ideologies associated with that group, but again it didn’t force everyone to suffer, which monarchism did do

monarchism didnt cause everyone go suffer that's a very broad statement.

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So then when did people flourish under monarchism

and it fixed problems by causing force labor among innocent peoples.

towards the early 1900s and late 1800s.

Me and you both know that isnt monarchism, it was damn near democracy

No not really.

More like monarchism with democratic aspects.

Yes, with all the parliament in such

Exactly

Not true monarchism

again monarchism with democratic aspects.

still monarchism at its core

Then in that case, name one monarchy before the 1700’s that saw a flourishing population

I would have to say the HRE would be flourishing.

as well as Poland Lithuania

France as well

the byzantine empire could count

the Roman empire too

The HRE, well in that case I stand corrected, but France is definitely not a contender for flourishing peoples

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depends more or less

maybe for the low low class but middle class flourished.

As for the Roman, that was not Monarchism

to an extent

Not by a long shot

it went back and forth

It was ruled by a senate and emperor, neither of which is monarchism, the emperor would always consult the senate for political decisions

had monarchist ideals

but doesnt matter debating this considering the HRE is flourishing.

The HRE definitely did flourish, i cant and wont deny that

I won't deny that germany did flourish during the 1940s

but only at the cost of individualism freedom and the cost of innocent lives

In the end, neither of the ideologies exist in their truest form anymore

with all that I wouldnt say it was a great place to live.