Message from @yogo

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2019-05-09 15:06:32 UTC  

not at all

2019-05-09 15:06:38 UTC  

If we look at the definition of Libertarianism by google.

2019-05-09 15:06:40 UTC  

```
an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.
```

2019-05-09 15:06:55 UTC  

Pre-1800, the monarchy was never absolute and was laissez-faire.

2019-05-09 15:06:57 UTC  

Yeah

2019-05-09 15:07:03 UTC  

No

2019-05-09 15:07:07 UTC  

It was actually a conflict between King and the Church in Western Europe

2019-05-09 15:07:13 UTC  

And a conflict between King and Nobles

2019-05-09 15:07:24 UTC  

Let’s be honest,

2019-05-09 15:07:44 UTC  

Let's be honest. Practical Libertarianism would descend into a monarchy

2019-05-09 15:07:59 UTC  

There has never been a country with a large population that has ever functioned under a hard government

2019-05-09 15:08:41 UTC  

Libertarianism operates under the premise that citizen lives are affected much less than other forms of government.

2019-05-09 15:08:50 UTC  

Except how do you force that?

2019-05-09 15:09:10 UTC  

But who said they were forcing it?

2019-05-09 15:09:16 UTC  

Oh you're not forcing it?

2019-05-09 15:09:27 UTC  

What happens when someone doesn't want to practice libertarianism?

2019-05-09 15:09:27 UTC  

The IDEA is less government control

2019-05-09 15:09:34 UTC  

That's exactly the problem

2019-05-09 15:09:40 UTC  

Asking for lesser government control without forcing it

2019-05-09 15:09:41 UTC  

then they suck it up

2019-05-09 15:09:44 UTC  

or leave

2019-05-09 15:09:48 UTC  

or

2019-05-09 15:09:50 UTC  

they take over the government

2019-05-09 15:09:52 UTC  

and enact more control

2019-05-09 15:10:08 UTC  

which is why libertarianism descends into a monarchy

2019-05-09 15:10:38 UTC  

Someone will rule his property like a King

2019-05-09 15:10:43 UTC  

his neighbors get mad and start to attack this person

2019-05-09 15:11:07 UTC  

And should this person eminently defeat his neighbors, he will be able to rule his neighbor's property

2019-05-09 15:11:08 UTC  

and so on

2019-05-09 15:11:13 UTC  

No.

2019-05-09 15:11:26 UTC  

"muh non-aggression principle"

2019-05-09 15:11:27 UTC  

That id very untrue

2019-05-09 15:11:59 UTC  

In a world with scarce resource and unlimited demand, the non-aggression principle is nothing more than a meme.

2019-05-09 15:12:17 UTC  

If you had McDonald and Burger King right next to each other and they should expand naturally

2019-05-09 15:12:23 UTC  

eventually they'll border each other and get mad

2019-05-09 15:12:33 UTC  

Tech

2019-05-09 15:12:37 UTC  

Both companies want to expand, both refuse to sit down

2019-05-09 15:12:42 UTC  

what is your political ideology

2019-05-09 15:12:48 UTC  

with limited government control

2019-05-09 15:12:54 UTC  

two companies begin to amass arms without any restrictions

2019-05-09 15:13:02 UTC  

and suddenly the company that wins becomes more powerful than ever before