Message from @Spicy
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@Deleted User good luck dying of every disease under the sun
realistically the climate won't change for 100's of years, so fuck that shit. Additionally we need countries like China, India and America who are the major polluters to find more environmentally sound ways of energy
@The Lemon you do realize that "every disease under the sun" didnt come into the world until after the agricultural revolution right? Diabetes, osteoporosis, arthritis, cancer, and every single other major disease can be traced directly back to the agricultural revolution. When I say return to primitivism I also mean return to a primitivist diet when those diseases didnt even exist
@The Lemon the only reason "every disease under the sun" exists is because we're no longer primitivists
Mental how many people dont know this
You do realise cancer did exist before but people were so busy dying of dysentery, the flu, smallpox, malnutrition, scurvy etc. That they didn't live long enough to develop it
Fair enough about diabetes
But you don't need to live primitively to combat that, just eat healthily
Unless it's type 1, but the best way to fight type 1 is moder. Insulin production methods
Arthritis and osteoporosis I don't know as much about to be fair
@The Lemon no, cancer did not exist before the agricultural revolution and deaths from dysentery, the flu and smallpox (malnutrition and scurvy did not exist yet) were evidently non-existent as all the remains of people we've found from that time have been dated to be 70 or 80 years old
I'll take back slightly the malnutrition, it was likely around but theres very little evidence it was a major cause of death
You got any evidence of this?
When exactly do you mean by the agricultural revolution?
That's very non specific
Do you mean around when the indus River Valley civilisation formed 10000 years ago?
If you dont know what the agricultural revolution means a quick 2 second Google search can be your best friend
Climate change is a problem to solve.
O ooo
As for the diseases coming from the ar you can read this https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110615094514.htm
@Deleted User afaik though the agricultural revolution wasn't a sudden thing, how can you pin it down to one specific point in time
OK so it was 10000 yrs ago as I though
I'm not, dont strawman me. It was the broad time when people stop having meat and fat heavy diets in favor of crop heavy diets
Collectively known as the agricultural revo
Revolution*
Ok so from what I can see that says initially there was a reduction in the nutrition of diets due to a smaller variety of foods and an increase in infectious diseases
But in the modern day we have plenty varied diets and we have medicine to fight infectious diseases
Nowhere does it say that the agricultural revolution caused the diseases
Just that it allowed infectious diseases to spread more easily due to people being in closer proximity
Which is fair enough, that also happened with the cities and the industrial revolution
But we have far better solutions to those problems than anarcho-primitivism
The agricultural revolution is the genesis of most major modern diseases
so what if diseases sprung after the agricultural revolution @Deleted User
@Deleted User Eh that's entirely incorrect, Cancer has existed as long as humans have existed, cases were documented as early as the Ancient Egyptians, who describes techniques to remove and treat tumors such as cauterization or removal with a knife (mind you, these techniques typically did not work.) Hippocrates described certain types of tumors and cancers in his writings as well. We see a constant trend of documentation from as early as Egypt to today.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/cncr.25553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cancer#Early_diagnoses
https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-basics/history-of-cancer.html
As for other diseases, of course humans living in close proximity with no modern medical knowledges caused the spread of disease, however modern medical science allows us to treat and prevent these illnesses. That's why the average life expectancy is so high, we have abundant clean food, clean water, vaccines and antibiotics, and so on and so forth.
Frankly, I'm not aware of many people who are willing to give up all the luxuries of modern life in order to go live in the woods and die from a scraped knee or a mosquito bite
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