And vegetables and grains and probably drink some water too

I think per square foot of space regulated to producing food, growing stuff is more efficient than livestock

Idk you want a menu?

But yeah, making meat go away isn't really part of the discussion usually

@Dr.Cosby it is but also not relevant to what i said

Like thats its own debate

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I suppose so

You can debate climate change itself and then you can debate solutions

This guy wants to debate veganism

Which i explicitly said im not for

Hes a charlatan

I think it's more likely that he's just confused

I like to give the benefit of the doubt, up to a certain point

To a point but when i say im not for vegetarianism and he says "so of you dont eat me how will we not starve" i have to question...

growing cattle on one acre is alot more efficient than growing veggies at least where i am, i work on a family owned cow calf farm and we also grow a bit of corn for feed. we cant survive on just crops and neither can our economy.

https://faunalytics.org/farming-animals-vs-farming-plants-comparison/

Many other sources of similar information, but it's also pretty obvious stuff.

We eat animals because they are tastier, not because they are more "efficient" (ESPECIALLY with modern farming technology)

i dont think your qualified to tell me about this because you live in or around seattle

i live on the other side of the country

I'm not qualified to give you the scientifically backed up facts?

I'm not doing independent research here.

Your anecdotal experience has little meaning in this conversation.

It is a FACT that plant-based food is more space and energy efficient than meat-based food.

They aren't taking livestock into outer space - it's NOT efficient. It's a luxury, plain and simple.

I could post more links, but I already posted a pretty good one just above - you can do your own research.

Meat is a premium luxury. You can find me a corner case such as nomadic herders (can't grow crops, rely on livestock) - but just like your fallacy about me not being "qualified" to discuss this topic, that is also a fallacy.

Im sorry but @Mr. Lewis i have said 3 seperate times now, all in response to you, that I am not arguing for a reduction in meat consumption. Perhaps those west of missourri are so unqualified to tell you about "this stuff" that you haven't even read my responses?

Now if you are willing to actually engage with me as a human being then i might be more inclined to respect you. Otherwise youre no longer worth my time. Throwing shit at wall is a better use of my time.

sorry i only want to enage with you as a dog or maybe a parrot or like a deer, but not as a human.sorry for the inconvenience. 🙁

Thats okay @Mr. Lewis thanks for tainting the water with your shit for the 23rd year in a row

but seriously i wasnt really talking to you anymore i was talking to dr cosby

i also wasnt treating you in an inhumane way

but to dr cosby meat isnt a luxury humans need meat to survive sure we could grow more crops on one acre but when it comes down to it humans need protein.

And the most efficient source of protein per acre is also plants...

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Sup

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/cm0t6c/republicans_are_more_likely_to_believe_climate

nice abstract

It may say that but I believe in it either way