Message from @Sh0t

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2019-11-15 14:39:03 UTC  

I think it's real, but it's a detriment to human health more than the earth

2019-11-15 14:39:05 UTC  

e.g.

2019-11-15 14:39:19 UTC  

I'd be in favour of changing our main source of power to clean energy

2019-11-15 14:39:27 UTC  

I am human so the viability of human life on the planet matters to me

2019-11-15 14:39:33 UTC  

due to the respiratory impacts it has on us

2019-11-15 14:39:46 UTC  

but when you compare the sun activity to the temperature increase

2019-11-15 14:39:55 UTC  

you will see that it follows a pattern

2019-11-15 14:41:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518779466512596992/644909726437736458/TvsTSI.png

2019-11-15 14:41:26 UTC  

```Figure 1: Annual global temperature change (thin light red) with 11 year moving average of temperature (thick dark red). Temperature from NASA GISS. Annual Total Solar Irradiance (thin light blue) with 11 year moving average of TSI (thick dark blue). TSI from 1880 to 1978 from Krivova et al 2007. TSI from 1979 to 2015 from the World Radiation Center (see their PMOD index page for data updates). Plots of the most recent solar irradiance can be found at the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics LISIRD site.

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2019-11-15 14:41:42 UTC  

Do you think that is an accurate representation?

2019-11-15 14:44:26 UTC  

that uses the solar averages, the average of irradiance doesn't change that much which does't display a big correlation

2019-11-15 14:44:36 UTC  

but when it comes to activity in terms of solar flairs

2019-11-15 14:45:19 UTC  

hmm

2019-11-15 14:45:25 UTC  

I cant seem to be able to post images

2019-11-15 14:45:37 UTC  

upload

2019-11-15 14:45:54 UTC  

You might not be high enough level yet as an anti-spam, the link worked but you deleted it

2019-11-15 14:47:26 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518779466512596992/644911342557462546/solar-activity-and-temperatures.png

2019-11-15 14:47:36 UTC  

That is the image you tried to post

2019-11-15 14:48:28 UTC  

yeah

2019-11-15 14:48:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518779466512596992/644911627963072512/iu.png

2019-11-15 14:48:39 UTC  

this is the second one you msged me

2019-11-15 14:49:06 UTC  

yeah

2019-11-15 14:50:06 UTC  

You will have to interpret for us

2019-11-15 14:50:10 UTC  

I can't read the print

2019-11-15 14:51:07 UTC  

the first one uses 'total solar radiance' similar to the NASA one, but are the data different?

2019-11-15 14:51:42 UTC  

that second link ends at 2013 as well

2019-11-15 14:51:50 UTC  

which misses those 4 record breaking years from the above link

2019-11-15 14:54:39 UTC  

the calculation comes from 2 Toronto PhDs, missing 4 years is not really relevant when you can see the previous years not following the pattern (you're talking about the connection between C02 and global temperature or the solar irradiance?)

2019-11-15 14:55:53 UTC  

on that second one, i see both are trending up, higher lows, higher highs

2019-11-15 14:56:24 UTC  

if the chart kept going, it would have another round of higher lows and highs

2019-11-15 14:56:38 UTC  

2014 till present, which is what those record breaking years are about

2019-11-15 14:58:17 UTC  

```The amount of solar energy that Earth receives has followed the Sun’s natural 11-year cycle of small ups and downs with no net increase since the 1950s. Over the same period, global temperature has risen markedly. It is therefore extremely unlikely that the Sun has caused the observed global temperature warming trend over the past half-century. Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech
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2019-11-15 14:58:34 UTC  

I don't have the equipment to independently verify what NASA is saying

2019-11-15 15:00:28 UTC  

In the comments NASA addresses a solar cycle post

2019-11-15 15:00:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518779466512596992/644914684809445387/Screenshot_111.png

2019-11-15 15:02:21 UTC  

I see

2019-11-15 15:02:25 UTC  

One is a scary one as well suggesting the next ice age might be skipped

2019-11-15 15:02:26 UTC  

looks like I can't dispute that

2019-11-15 15:02:33 UTC  

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