no no

the earth is warming alright

but were their predictions correct and what would happen when those temperatures hit correct?

wasn't bangladesh supposed to be underwater by now and the ice volume be lower?

I'm not saying that the pollutants are harmful to human health

what I'm saying is that the impact that we have in the ecosystem is not as big as it is being portrayed

You would have to find a specific prediction I guess and we can check it

with all of the scientific data on global warming I've read I tend more to believe that the temperature variation is more connected to sun activity

Sun spot activity is there, but the CO2 situation seems for real to me, and we understand how that cycle works pretty well

They compound as well for the greenhouse effect

I think it's real, but it's a detriment to human health more than the earth

e.g.

I'd be in favour of changing our main source of power to clean energy

I am human so the viability of human life on the planet matters to me

due to the respiratory impacts it has on us

but when you compare the sun activity to the temperature increase

you will see that it follows a pattern

```Figure 1: Annual global temperature change (thin light red) with 11 year moving average of temperature (thick dark red). Temperature from NASA GISS. Annual Total Solar Irradiance (thin light blue) with 11 year moving average of TSI (thick dark blue). TSI from 1880 to 1978 from Krivova et al 2007. TSI from 1979 to 2015 from the World Radiation Center (see their PMOD index page for data updates). Plots of the most recent solar irradiance can be found at the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics LISIRD site.

```

Do you think that is an accurate representation?

that uses the solar averages, the average of irradiance doesn't change that much which does't display a big correlation

but when it comes to activity in terms of solar flairs

hmm

I cant seem to be able to post images

upload

You might not be high enough level yet as an anti-spam, the link worked but you deleted it

https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/14/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/

That is the image you tried to post

yeah

this is the second one you msged me

yeah

You will have to interpret for us

I can't read the print

the first one uses 'total solar radiance' similar to the NASA one, but are the data different?

that second link ends at 2013 as well

which misses those 4 record breaking years from the above link

the calculation comes from 2 Toronto PhDs, missing 4 years is not really relevant when you can see the previous years not following the pattern (you're talking about the connection between C02 and global temperature or the solar irradiance?)

on that second one, i see both are trending up, higher lows, higher highs

if the chart kept going, it would have another round of higher lows and highs