Message from @carbon dioxyde55
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China can't feed itself, so choking off their population down so sustainable levels is doable from the outside if things came to that, Some countries in Europe can, some can, in the net it's a bit unclear due to foreign imports
Nah, the migrants aren't causing this problem, it's the opposite. THe West's use of energy is causing the migration
If you want to actually talk some sense into us give us back our culture and our white families
The West is affecting what happens in those other areas, making resource fights unavoidable
This was predicted decades ago, some believe it was intentional for various reasons
For example, if Europe was so thirsty for natural Gas, there wouldn't be any Syrian migrant crisis
same for nuclear fuel from central Africa causing that turmoil, etc
Putin came to power in russia by writing papers and talking about exactly these dynamics
Africa has been poor forever bro. Its almost like its wanting itself to be poor. for example black people sell and own slaves
Being poor is one thing, but poor people don't cause climate change
And egyptians kill each other for speaking against islam
But Western energy consumption affects the biosphere in those locations, causing the migrant problems because it hurts their sustainability
Its not some dumb celcius things or west takeover that destroys all of africa at once. Its their culture
A major problem were Western fishing fleets in African waters , etc,
Their culture is irrelevant to thermodynamics my friend
Animals are obviously 'dumb', they don't destroy the biosphere the same way because their energy usage is limited to their own bodies, usually smaller than the 70-90 watts human bodies operate around
Well gues what the west is just doing a bit of crime by fishing in their waters but hey thats what the africans deserve for not having a military
And plus migrants arent caused by something. Migrants are caused by taking in and accepting people into your own country
Which needs to stop
(((Europe)))
Some African countries have powerful militaries, which isn't necessarily anything to be happy or sad about. The issue doesn' tjust affect Africa is the point, though. What you do in one place affects the rest of the Earth, it's a mostly closed system except for solar radiation in and radiating away waste heat
The WEstern industrialization and energy pursuit is what causes the reasons for migration, stopping them at the border or not is another issue
Denying them at the border would probably increase radicalization back in the home countries, leading to a more serious security threat
Shit im at school now
I gtf
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study hard
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Wait did he say we pollute because of migrants?
When its the massive industrialization we have that has become fundamental to the production and employment of citizens and their well-being and the reliance on consumerism to keep our economy running?
It's the other way around. The pollution and industrialization instigates much of hte migration, it's part of the wars and the enviornmental damage causes pollution pressure as well
we don't need that much industrialization to have a high standard of living, it's partly a subsidy to the 1% at the expense of workers that would garner a better bargaining position in with less industrialized methods, like in farming
the externalities are socialized, compounding the problem
the Syrian war migrants for example are directly related to Europe's energy consumption. the underlying pipeline issue is mostly a Western European issue, despite using the US as a proxy there
there is no real need, and it's obviously impossible, to keep focusing on growth that depends completely on more energy input. accepting that fact and realigning would help everybody involved, but the relative position of certain entrenched interests would change
those entrenched interests are the ones sponsoring the 'brainwashing' of anti environmentalists, as is shown time-and-time again by many sides, including some right-wing environmentalists
Europeans being environmentalists. That is Ironic