Message from @McBacoon
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```You argue about going towards renewables. Did you know that solar panels actually INCREASE the carbon footprint in many areas? In fact, China has increased their carbon footprint because of their commitment to solar.``` Ofcourse I think we should go towards renewables, as oil, coal will run out someday. And I also agree that solar panels shouldnt be installed everywhere. Places like California and mid-east are pretty nice. I have also seen alot of them in mediterrean countries, where there is alot of sun. Wind... its better than nothing. If I have to shut my coal plant to 50% then even that is progress. Wind is actually doing pretty good.. Denmark is a pretty big user of wind. In Estonia (YES, AGAIN WITH THAT) there is a plan to build a big wind park in the middle of the sea, as there are pretty good wind speeds in there. That park alone could power half the country. We produce 80% of electricity from shale oil, but if u could tune that down a bit... would be much better. Im also a big supporter of nuclear power and I think its the way of the future.
@McBacoon NK doesn't have the ability to strike the USA. The USA can choose to attack NK at any point without any major threat of NK hitting the USA at this point. We also have missile defense systems even if they could hit us. The USA is also not the only threat to Kim Jong-un, and the longer he fails to grow North Korea the more likely someone kills him from the inside. And you also bring up the denuclearization meme, but that's BS. They know what we mean and we know what they mean. They are playing games when they pretend to not know what we mean by denuclearization, and the Trump Administration has been very careful about that. That's why they blocked the railway research because they didn't want things advancing too quickly.
On NK blowing up their facility, they blew up multiple facilities.
*obviously a man with no specific military knowldege* not as an insult tho...
@McBacoon About constatine wire, did you miss my point about the psychological impact.
```NK doesn't have the ability to strike the USA.``` They are developing it, they possibly already have a missile that can hit Alaska. And USA wil NEVER attack NK. Because of the same "missiles that are making it a target at this point" You need a platform to deliver these missiles with. They have a bunch of short-range and medium-range missiles. Thats already enough to nuke Japan (lmao Japs getting it again) and South Korea. And USA wants to hear none of that. So... it wont nuke NK. The missile defence system you have is pure ***BS***. They could hit you perfectly fine. USA is in every aspect a threat to Kim. US has soldiers in SK, Japan. Their fleets do patrolls near their waters, their planes fly over Pyeongyang (I think it was this year a B-1 with escorts flew over them). And you are telling me USA is no way a threat to Kim? Now, remove nukes from that.. and you get a possible Korean War 2.0 NK understand that under denuclearization all US troops would also withdraw (history has shown its not a great idea) from SK and possibly Japan.
@McBacoon You are really reaching now. Running out of fossil fuels is not a serious problem to be considered right now. And the closer we get, the higher prices will go, and the more the market will automatically gear towards other sources of energy like solar, wind, tidal, nuclear, bio, etc. You talk about solar being good in some areas. Yes, it is, but forcing it down our throats is the wrong answer. Let the market dictate. On wind, it's better than nothing, but we're not talking about wind or nothing. We're talking about fossil fuels + wind + solar + every other type of energy or FORCING wind and solar and NOT HAVING fossil fuels.
nobody is forcing it
who is?
is there an goverment official with an M4 behind ur door?
***"gimme dat wind power boii"***
@McBacoon And now you are resorting to attacking me personally as an ad hominem. I think it's time for me to opt-out. You are not discussing in good faith.
heh
how tho?
Yeah, keep laughing. You have no real arguments so you just laugh.
😄
I have in no way attacked you
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To think you are staff on this server and this is how you try to create conversation? Wow. Makes me want to leave the server
wtf
what did I do now
I'm trying to discuss seriously and you can't stop with ad homs, meming, and trolling
as if you havent seen from lines of text... I also try to discuss seriously?
Like I said, you are doing this because you are insecure with your own arguments, but still
Ah? Am I the only retarded one in here right now as... I dont udnerstand what the hell you on about?
And still... how in the earth did I attack you personally?
Bruh
Trump has had more than 300 achievements in his presidency two great constitutionalists on the Supreme Court fought for border security and safety tough on the second amendment and is making America great again record low unemployment for minorities many great things he will win in 2020
@McBacoon How do you do the black box quote?
@atheist4thecause I see we have a Zeihan follower here
three of these on each side
@Tyberius D who/what is Zeihan? OH! Zeihan is the guy I quoted earlier. I actually don't know that much about him, but he is someone I want to watch more closely in the future. I follow Scott Adams and he retweeted Peter Zeihan.
@atheist4thecause Post a link to Scott please?
Zeihan is the guy who got me into Geopolitics, and the reason I am back in school for economics
Scott Adams is the creator of Dilbert. He wrote a few books including "Win Bigly". He's a hypnoist and economist as well. He's big into persuasion, and a big Trump supporter. He predicted Trump would win.
I highly recommend his periscopes. They go on about 9 am ET every day usually, but sometimes it varies.
@atheist4thecause It's a bit naive to say that the market will automatically gear towards other sources of power
It dosent work like that
Other sources of power are nowhere near as reliable as fossil fuels