Message from @McBacoon
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@McBacoon By signing the PCA with no legal commitment, countries are allowed to get the optics of working towards environmental goals without actually working towards them. The USA has not been in the PCA and yet has been doing just fine on lowering carbon emissions. The USA has actually led in reducing carbon emissions without forcing it like other countries (again, France) are trying to (not that the government does nothing).
You argue about going towards renewables. Did you know that solar panels actually INCREASE the carbon footprint in many areas? In fact, China has increased their carbon footprint because of their commitment to solar. Check this out: https://twitter.com/PeterZeihan/status/989868124525809664
And why do you assume renewables are the answer? Wind is highly variable and pretty crappy overall. Solar is okay right now, but there are better sources. Nuclear fission is great clean powerful energy. Nuclear fusion theoretically can give us near-infinite powerful energy if we can get the technology working, and fusion power plants don't have meltdowns.
On the border, that's fine if you don't think bringing the military to the border was worth it, but the argument was about whether or not Trump was securing the borders. He has worked towards doing just that. What the military was doing was running constatine wire, and that was a psychological act to PREVENT future illegal crossings. We're not just talking about preventing people crossing, we're talking about preventing drugs, slave trafficking, rapes, crimes, etc. Crime has risen in Mexico due to these caravans.
*constantine wire*
ever heard of wire cutters?
😄
On unemployment, sure, Canada isn't doing bad, but Trump is destroying Trudeau on trade deals and the USA's economy is doing much better than Canadas. The Feds have increased interest rates over and over to slow our economy down because it's growing so quickly.
You say the countries I mentioned, like Venezuela, have no impact on the world's economy. You say Venezuela doesn't even produce much oil. Well, they certainly used to. They aren't now and are now struggling mightily economically. That does have an impact on the world's economy. Syria has oil, too.
You talk about Asian countries recovering. Notice what you aren't talking about is the USA's economy, because you know our economy is strong. That isn't even debatable anymore. I remember when the MSM said Trump was going to tank the economy. That never happened.
About minorities, you're looking at it wrong. It's not about hiring 20 Black guys or 20 White guys. It's about are people in the inner cities of Detroit getting hired or not? Yes? Well, those are going to be a much higher population of Black people than the rural areas of North Dakota, for instance. And the Latino population has an issue with understanding English. So there is information to be gathered generally from looking at groups, although unemployment in general is most important. Simply put, though, Trump is not only helping our economy, he's growing it in a great way. Building manufacturing is another great way he has helped the economy. A manufacturing job is worth more than a lot of other jobs, because uneducated people can make a good living doing it, and that is a large population. Those people have few other places to get jobs if not for manufacturing.
You ask how Trump is bringing jobs to the neediest areas. Building manufacturing is a big way, because places like Detroit have been built on the auto industry, and then got destroyed by global trade deals that outsourced their jobs. Trump got out of bad trade deals like the TPP, NAFTA, PCA, etc., he's reworking them, and that's bringing jobs that were outsourced back.
```You argue about going towards renewables. Did you know that solar panels actually INCREASE the carbon footprint in many areas? In fact, China has increased their carbon footprint because of their commitment to solar.``` Ofcourse I think we should go towards renewables, as oil, coal will run out someday. And I also agree that solar panels shouldnt be installed everywhere. Places like California and mid-east are pretty nice. I have also seen alot of them in mediterrean countries, where there is alot of sun. Wind... its better than nothing. If I have to shut my coal plant to 50% then even that is progress. Wind is actually doing pretty good.. Denmark is a pretty big user of wind. In Estonia (YES, AGAIN WITH THAT) there is a plan to build a big wind park in the middle of the sea, as there are pretty good wind speeds in there. That park alone could power half the country. We produce 80% of electricity from shale oil, but if u could tune that down a bit... would be much better. Im also a big supporter of nuclear power and I think its the way of the future.
@McBacoon NK doesn't have the ability to strike the USA. The USA can choose to attack NK at any point without any major threat of NK hitting the USA at this point. We also have missile defense systems even if they could hit us. The USA is also not the only threat to Kim Jong-un, and the longer he fails to grow North Korea the more likely someone kills him from the inside. And you also bring up the denuclearization meme, but that's BS. They know what we mean and we know what they mean. They are playing games when they pretend to not know what we mean by denuclearization, and the Trump Administration has been very careful about that. That's why they blocked the railway research because they didn't want things advancing too quickly.
On NK blowing up their facility, they blew up multiple facilities.
*obviously a man with no specific military knowldege* not as an insult tho...
@McBacoon About constatine wire, did you miss my point about the psychological impact.
```NK doesn't have the ability to strike the USA.``` They are developing it, they possibly already have a missile that can hit Alaska. And USA wil NEVER attack NK. Because of the same "missiles that are making it a target at this point" You need a platform to deliver these missiles with. They have a bunch of short-range and medium-range missiles. Thats already enough to nuke Japan (lmao Japs getting it again) and South Korea. And USA wants to hear none of that. So... it wont nuke NK. The missile defence system you have is pure ***BS***. They could hit you perfectly fine. USA is in every aspect a threat to Kim. US has soldiers in SK, Japan. Their fleets do patrolls near their waters, their planes fly over Pyeongyang (I think it was this year a B-1 with escorts flew over them). And you are telling me USA is no way a threat to Kim? Now, remove nukes from that.. and you get a possible Korean War 2.0 NK understand that under denuclearization all US troops would also withdraw (history has shown its not a great idea) from SK and possibly Japan.
@McBacoon You are really reaching now. Running out of fossil fuels is not a serious problem to be considered right now. And the closer we get, the higher prices will go, and the more the market will automatically gear towards other sources of energy like solar, wind, tidal, nuclear, bio, etc. You talk about solar being good in some areas. Yes, it is, but forcing it down our throats is the wrong answer. Let the market dictate. On wind, it's better than nothing, but we're not talking about wind or nothing. We're talking about fossil fuels + wind + solar + every other type of energy or FORCING wind and solar and NOT HAVING fossil fuels.
nobody is forcing it
who is?
is there an goverment official with an M4 behind ur door?
***"gimme dat wind power boii"***
@McBacoon And now you are resorting to attacking me personally as an ad hominem. I think it's time for me to opt-out. You are not discussing in good faith.
heh
how tho?
Yeah, keep laughing. You have no real arguments so you just laugh.
I have in no way attacked you
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To think you are staff on this server and this is how you try to create conversation? Wow. Makes me want to leave the server
wtf
what did I do now
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I'm trying to discuss seriously and you can't stop with ad homs, meming, and trolling
as if you havent seen from lines of text... I also try to discuss seriously?
Like I said, you are doing this because you are insecure with your own arguments, but still
Ah? Am I the only retarded one in here right now as... I dont udnerstand what the hell you on about?
And still... how in the earth did I attack you personally?
Bruh
Trump has had more than 300 achievements in his presidency two great constitutionalists on the Supreme Court fought for border security and safety tough on the second amendment and is making America great again record low unemployment for minorities many great things he will win in 2020
@McBacoon How do you do the black box quote?
@atheist4thecause I see we have a Zeihan follower here
@Tyberius D who/what is Zeihan? OH! Zeihan is the guy I quoted earlier. I actually don't know that much about him, but he is someone I want to watch more closely in the future. I follow Scott Adams and he retweeted Peter Zeihan.
@atheist4thecause Post a link to Scott please?
Zeihan is the guy who got me into Geopolitics, and the reason I am back in school for economics