Message from @The Lemon
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@atheist4thecause Although I do want to get a couple of things straight because I have very strong opinions on this topic, firstly I don't buy into the bullshit that we'll all die by 2050, The uncertainty in our calculations of global warming means the change in temperature in the next century could be roughly anywhere between 1-4 degrees increase. That's the difference between pretty insignificant and total Armageddon. What we do know about global warming however is that our actions on the planet especially with fossil fuels are having an effect on it
Namely they are speeding it up
Sure we really don't know by how much
@Big Smoke Чунгус Obama's unemployment rate dropped drastically. It hiked under Bush when the Housing Market Bubble popped.
But we know it will become a problem at some point in the future
Thank you btw
for that graph cba to find it myself
But also secondly for the record I am more pro-nuclear than anyone else you will ever meet
My argument was exactly the opposite of anti nuclear
My point was it takes a while to put the research in and build the stations now before we start to run out of fossil fuels
Aka we should hurry the fuck up with converting to nuclear
Rather than "waiting until the market wants it"
Also we need to put a lot more energy in to thorium nuclear power
I won't get started on that right now because I could honestly rant about it for ages
And it's already past 11PM here
But ask me about it another time and I'd be happy to explain it to you
But really I am pro nuclear
Also that converting cO2 project is a bit pointless
Because you're converting CO2 back into fuel which is then burnt releasing the CO2 again
Basic chemistry
Anyway I need to go cya
But yeah I have strong opinions about nuclear power
Especially about fusion which is always "20 years away"
Has been since the mid fucking 20th century
Apparently Nuclear Power Plants are the safest Power Plants! Ironic!
The problem is that when somethinf bad happens, it's very big
Very very big
those are the reasons we need to conside does risk= reward?
@The Lemon This unemployment rate was not inevitable. We are hitting record lows with certain demographics such as Blacks and women (close to it if not record low for women), and the unemployment rate in general is as low as it has been since the 1960's. That's a big deal and far from inevitable. Obama and Trump both deserve credit, not have credit taken away from both of them.
You say Trump criticized Obama for not getting stuff done, and now you give Trump the same treatment. Did you agree with Trump's criticism of Obama. If not, why would you act the way in which you disagreed with? Criticizing Trump for not getting every little policy accomplished in 2 years because he criticized Obama is petty and dishonest.
The Muslim ban did make sense because those countries were a high risk for creating extremists. It's also not true that the majority of radicalization happens after people come to the West. Most radicalization happens in these 3rd world countries. You talk about the fall of ISIS, but that was partly where the risk was coming from. When ISIS falls, you have all those followers that are going to go places.
On the Trans issue, thousands of people didn't get fired. They got grandfathered in.
On coal, I think you have Trump wrong. He's not pro-coal, he's anti-killing coal. Trump is in favor of ALL types of energy, including renewables. He wants to make the USA a leading exporter of energy. Democrats were trying to artificially kill coal more quickly with heavy regulations. If coal loses in the free market, so be it.
Oh, I'm a Walk Away Republican
No need to tell me about this shit
@The Lemon I didn't say there were very few White supremacists at the statue, I said there are very few White supremacists in society. The ones that do exist are outcasts. I also said that at the statue, there were many free speech advocates, which Trump referred to as very nice people. You say Trump wasn't being unifying, but he said, "Some Very Fine People on Both Sides" https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/
On global warming, climate alarmists aren't saying we'll all die by 2050, they are saying the world will be beyond repair by 2050. That's BS. You seem to agree, though, so that's good. According to the NCA4, our GDP will be harmed 10% by 2100 while it grows 300% for a net gain of 290%, and that's assuming some extreme stuff like 8 C degree rise in temperature. https://twitter.com/AndrewDessler/status/1067482325108301824 Simply put, climate change is affordable.
Wtf is the Paris Agreement?
Does fuck all
China basically has free reign
And so does India
@atheist4thecause you said that USA is leading in killing CO2 emissions. Did you meant that by actual numbers per kg or by %?
athiest4thecause an 8C rise in temperatures would end humanity
at least as we know it