Message from @fuck12moredeadcops

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2019-10-07 18:22:39 UTC  

No it doesn't.

2019-10-07 18:22:46 UTC  

?

2019-10-07 18:22:49 UTC  

There's an entirely different word for them within Marxism

2019-10-07 18:22:52 UTC  

...yes it does

2019-10-07 18:22:53 UTC  

Ok

2019-10-07 18:22:54 UTC  

We call them labor aristocrats

2019-10-07 18:23:01 UTC  

Lol ok

2019-10-07 18:23:03 UTC  

They're not the same thing as the bourgeois class

2019-10-07 18:23:10 UTC  

Anyway, I’m gonna get back to work

2019-10-07 18:23:17 UTC  

I highly recommend you listen to mike Duncan

2019-10-07 18:23:25 UTC  

Whats the difference between bourgeois class and labor aristocrats?

2019-10-07 18:23:31 UTC  

You’re smart enough to understand him unlike a lot of the fuckers here

2019-10-07 18:23:35 UTC  

And I think you’d enjoy it

2019-10-07 18:24:34 UTC  

@3v6en8 The bourgeois class uses money to purchase the dead labor of a workers, they then extract surplus value from the value generated by the labor of workers, and they keep that surplus value

2019-10-07 18:24:57 UTC  

A labor aristocrat is just a worker who is disproportionately compensated for their labor

2019-10-07 18:25:13 UTC  

What if a doctor or a lawyer owns a business?

2019-10-07 18:25:19 UTC  

Also known as minor bourgeois

2019-10-07 18:25:24 UTC  

and so their class interest becomes confused and they're more likely to seek the maintenance of capitalism because it provides a high standard of living for them

2019-10-07 18:25:32 UTC  

Then he's petit-bourgeois

2019-10-07 18:25:53 UTC  

petit comme ta bite 😎

2019-10-07 18:25:57 UTC  

Which just means any possessed person who owns a small business, or most exploit their own labor as well as the labor of others to profit

2019-10-07 18:26:03 UTC  

Mademoiselle j'connais le Francais

2019-10-07 18:26:05 UTC  

Im not agreeing with this class interest/class traitor stuff

2019-10-07 18:26:12 UTC  

Football players fit into it

2019-10-07 18:26:15 UTC  

non parle français

2019-10-07 18:26:23 UTC  

ouais pd

2019-10-07 18:27:07 UTC  

Do all business exploit labor?

2019-10-07 18:27:10 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-07 18:27:15 UTC  

They have to in order to make money

2019-10-07 18:27:20 UTC  

especially the majority of businesses

2019-10-07 18:27:23 UTC  

which are small

2019-10-07 18:27:23 UTC  

What about labor?

2019-10-07 18:27:24 UTC  

If they paid you the full value of your labor, they wouldnt make a profit

2019-10-07 18:27:49 UTC  

If they weren't there in the first place you wouldn't make anything

2019-10-07 18:27:50 UTC  

LOL

2019-10-07 18:27:52 UTC  

So if there is no business, the workers would get their value from govt?

2019-10-07 18:28:01 UTC  

Who are untrustworthy

2019-10-07 18:28:10 UTC  

No like

2019-10-07 18:28:15 UTC  

Workers generate their own value

2019-10-07 18:28:18 UTC  

Kleptocratic governments yes yes

2019-10-07 18:28:21 UTC  

Europe had large peasant classes that didn’t even really own land essentially with small noble classes that owned everything. This never was a thing in the United States and that’s why it never got much traction here.