Message from @Pelth

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2019-10-07 18:54:45 UTC  

He was a brainlet

2019-10-07 18:54:47 UTC  

What about now?

2019-10-07 18:54:56 UTC  

What should we do now?

2019-10-07 18:54:58 UTC  

Name a single state which has existed without socioeconomic classes? @Pelth

2019-10-07 18:55:37 UTC  

and furthermore name one where these classes are not in conflict with one another

2019-10-07 18:55:44 UTC  

The struggles between classes weren’t the primary issue. People knew their places in society

2019-10-07 18:56:13 UTC  

@3v6en8 Engage in the destruction of bourgeois class society, and build a world where human need is the primary driving force

2019-10-07 18:56:37 UTC  

Where is the innovation in that society?

2019-10-07 18:57:08 UTC  

@Pelth That's why slaves societies never had slave revolts, feudal societies never had peasant revolts, mercantilist society never had bourgeois revolution, and capitalist society has never had proletarian revolution

2019-10-07 18:57:12 UTC  

It’s tribe vs tribe and every tribe has classes within it.

2019-10-07 18:57:14 UTC  

People just know their place

2019-10-07 18:57:48 UTC  

@3v6en8 Innovation according to human need

2019-10-07 18:58:00 UTC  

As opposed to innovation for the sake of personal gain

2019-10-07 18:58:29 UTC  

So people won't ask for more because we're all born moral, ethical and altruistic?

2019-10-07 18:58:48 UTC  

We only need a room, water/food, and clothing to work?

2019-10-07 18:58:52 UTC  

No, people won't be in headspaces where they're trained to ignore ethics and human suffering

2019-10-07 18:58:55 UTC  

@fuck12moredeadcops is this nonsense what they teach you in college?

2019-10-07 18:59:03 UTC  

I didn't go to college

2019-10-07 18:59:12 UTC  

Ahh

2019-10-07 18:59:15 UTC  

Checkmate Libtard

2019-10-07 18:59:17 UTC  

Most wars throughout history were disagreements amongst the rulers of the leaders of opposing tribes, not disagreements amongst the tribe itself

2019-10-07 18:59:34 UTC  

Went straight into the workforce then got radicalized while working construction

2019-10-07 18:59:35 UTC  

Where is our incentive to work?

2019-10-07 18:59:53 UTC  

So you’re a Mexican @fuck12moredeadcops

2019-10-07 18:59:56 UTC  

*Maybe the barrel of a govt police's gun*

2019-10-07 18:59:57 UTC  

@3v6en8 Can you honestly not conceive of working for a reason other than "Ah shit I want a wage"

2019-10-07 19:00:01 UTC  

No I'm black @Gоd

2019-10-07 19:00:15 UTC  

Ah a Black mexican

2019-10-07 19:00:25 UTC  

Why would I work efficiently?

2019-10-07 19:00:33 UTC  

I could just show up, do my thing and done

2019-10-07 19:00:44 UTC  

You can do that within capitalism

2019-10-07 19:00:56 UTC  

and you're much more likely to do that when your labor is largely meaningless

2019-10-07 19:01:08 UTC  

ofc, but people want to earn more money

2019-10-07 19:01:22 UTC  

more money = more amenities

2019-10-07 19:01:25 UTC  

Within socialism money still exist

2019-10-07 19:01:31 UTC  

as would consumer goods

2019-10-07 19:01:45 UTC  

I was talking about communism ideas not socalism

2019-10-07 19:02:13 UTC  

abolishing business sounds very communistic

2019-10-07 19:02:14 UTC  

When you've achieved communism we're post scarcity and people would engage in labor either because it was necessary or because they wanted to

2019-10-07 19:02:31 UTC  

Post scarcity?

2019-10-07 19:02:42 UTC  

When does that happen?