@Pelth That's why slaves societies never had slave revolts, feudal societies never had peasant revolts, mercantilist society never had bourgeois revolution, and capitalist society has never had proletarian revolution

It’s tribe vs tribe and every tribe has classes within it.

People just know their place

@3v6en8 Innovation according to human need

As opposed to innovation for the sake of personal gain

So people won't ask for more because we're all born moral, ethical and altruistic?

We only need a room, water/food, and clothing to work?

No, people won't be in headspaces where they're trained to ignore ethics and human suffering

@fuck12moredeadcops is this nonsense what they teach you in college?

I didn't go to college

Ahh

Checkmate Libtard

Most wars throughout history were disagreements amongst the rulers of the leaders of opposing tribes, not disagreements amongst the tribe itself

Went straight into the workforce then got radicalized while working construction

Where is our incentive to work?

So you’re a Mexican @fuck12moredeadcops

*Maybe the barrel of a govt police's gun*

@3v6en8 Can you honestly not conceive of working for a reason other than "Ah shit I want a wage"

No I'm black @Gоd

Ah a Black mexican

Why would I work efficiently?

I could just show up, do my thing and done

You can do that within capitalism

and you're much more likely to do that when your labor is largely meaningless

ofc, but people want to earn more money

more money = more amenities

Within socialism money still exist

as would consumer goods

I was talking about communism ideas not socalism

abolishing business sounds very communistic

When you've achieved communism we're post scarcity and people would engage in labor either because it was necessary or because they wanted to

Post scarcity?

When does that happen?

Like we no longer have resource scarcity

Communism - gimme muh free stuff *drools in retardation*

In the future when our means to produce are greater than our means to consume, we're already post-scarcity in things like food and housing

We just don't distribute them according to need

When will that happen?

So there's still a homeless population and a starving strata of the population

As our productive output develops and we invent new ways of doing old task

300 years ago the idea that there'd be more than enough food and housing for all people was absurd, now it is reality. 300 years from now things like transportation and fuel will exist the same way