Didnt trump say he was going to lock her up?

Yes penny I do, if he were asking for the ukrainian president for dirt in this transcript, that he wasnt expecting anyone else to read, why do you think he would have not come right out requesting this?

Since when has trump ever been subtle?

That wasn't subtle

That's funny that you think that

What do you make of the messages after the call?

If he didn't actually state "i want you to get dirt on biden" and made no mention of this or of the 2020 election then it can at best be extremely subtle

bruh

Ikr

Literally mentions biden and his son

*mentioning people is not illegal* . It depends on the context in which you do so.

Exactly

he couldve just said "just investigate corruption in ukraine; like do your job"

But trump wants to help get some of the investigation details

In the context is that was his main opponent in the upcoming election and the context is he just withheld desperately needed aid and the context is Giuliani had already been plying him with information about biden's son

And the context is that he didn't ask for dirt, seriously actually read the transcript. I very much doubt that you both have actually read it in full.

Maybe skimmed it

"investigate biden and give me the dirt thru my lawyer"

You should also rememeber that ukraine didn't even know aid had been stopped

Of course they did

Where did you get that idea

When I read it, I read the whole thing to see if it was made up

But literally it fits in + also the white house release the redacted version

Trump language is special; meaning =/= words

He doesnt need to say the specific words "get dirt on my political opponent"

Yes he does. If he says that then you actually have a case for this being illegal.

Honestly does hillary even need to specifically ask for trump dirt by saying "i want all the dirt you can find on trump"

Yes she does. And there is evidence of this occuring.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/fec-chair-subtweets-trump-after-plea-for-china-to-investigate-bidens.html

Nixon probably only said *"I want you to deal with the DNC problem"*

He didnt do anything illegal if thats what he said

Right... exactly

*Because he didn't specifically ask for dirt on the dnc*

I think this is really a moot conversation... More and more stops going to come out anyway

Stuff

The poll for impeachment jumps 13% in the last week

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464777-majority-in-new-poll-supports-impeachment-inquiry-almost-half-back

GG @pennypal, you just advanced to level 7!

"i want you to deal with the dnc problem" directly implies getting dirt on them as it directly comments on them. Trump saying "i want you to look into why a prosecution was stopped in the ukraine" and then mentions the bidens tangentially is a far weaker case for illegal activity.

wat

why would trump even need to do that?