Message from @Pelth

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2019-10-08 15:50:05 UTC  

Before commenting on it further

2019-10-08 15:50:10 UTC  

she recommends you catch up on the daily propaganda

2019-10-08 15:50:11 UTC  

they just twist a piece of evidence to their argument and when you point it out they attack your character

2019-10-08 15:50:29 UTC  

6 elephants fell off a water fall that was the news

2019-10-08 15:50:33 UTC  

since her arguments are derived entirely from fake news

2019-10-08 15:50:38 UTC  

And ellen hangs out with w

2019-10-08 15:50:41 UTC  

and do not exist in reality

2019-10-08 15:51:24 UTC  

fucking ridiculous

2019-10-08 15:52:06 UTC  

he will probably be impeached in the house though

2019-10-08 15:52:55 UTC  

tbh, does any evidence or reasoning really affect the senate's judgement?

2019-10-08 15:53:20 UTC  

Any talking point would 't matter if the senators already know what to vote for

2019-10-08 15:53:28 UTC  

well they are just supposed to keep it in consideration

2019-10-08 15:53:32 UTC  

but it doesn't bind them

2019-10-08 15:54:00 UTC  

i mean the senate probably wont boot out trump but if actual evidence of a quid pro quo comes out they could

2019-10-08 15:54:15 UTC  

I imagine trump going on a rant about deep state and witch hunting and such

2019-10-08 15:54:27 UTC  

quid pro quo isn't really illegal with foreign countries though

2019-10-08 15:54:31 UTC  

if the GOP just vote not guilty then it really doesnt matter

2019-10-08 15:54:33 UTC  

that's how most diplomacy is done pretty much

2019-10-08 15:54:38 UTC  

it is illegal i'm pretty sure

2019-10-08 15:55:15 UTC  

it's only really illegal internally

2019-10-08 15:55:17 UTC  

in the united states

2019-10-08 15:55:37 UTC  

How would we know?

2019-10-08 15:55:48 UTC  

maybe not in some cases but if trump actually called zelenskey to get dirt on biden specifically and used the aid as leverage that is absolutely illegal

2019-10-08 15:56:05 UTC  

that's still in the realm of possibility in other evidence

2019-10-08 15:56:10 UTC  

Well, thats is if the senators say its illegal

2019-10-08 15:56:21 UTC  

I mean the law is really flexible when it comes to these things

2019-10-08 15:56:31 UTC  

if you look at terrorism law, there is some crazy stuff

2019-10-08 15:56:34 UTC  

that is on the books

2019-10-08 15:56:45 UTC  

and most of that deals with things outside of the us

2019-10-08 15:57:09 UTC  

Do we still prosecute noncitizen criminals?

2019-10-08 15:57:17 UTC  

i mean, sort of i guess? but it also depends on the support of the president from inside the government

2019-10-08 15:57:37 UTC  

we can prosecute them if we get them transferred to our jurisdiction

2019-10-08 15:57:47 UTC  

we also have blacksites around the world

2019-10-08 15:57:53 UTC  

that are under our jurisdiction

2019-10-08 15:58:46 UTC  

also u.s. citizens that communicate with foreign nationals have a lot of protections stripped away

2019-10-08 15:58:50 UTC  

as far as being investigated

2019-10-08 15:59:24 UTC  

you can pretty much investigate them for any reason at all

2019-10-08 15:59:39 UTC  

you just need a fisa warrant which is insanely easy to get

2019-10-08 16:00:20 UTC  

the sort of initial justification to investigate is very loosely terrorism related and you can use any other "evidence" you obtain during the investigation

2019-10-08 16:00:59 UTC  

well it's not just terrorism really but in the interest of national security

2019-10-08 16:01:19 UTC  

and national security needs can be interpreted however you want to