Message from @pennypal
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if you look at terrorism law, there is some crazy stuff
that is on the books
and most of that deals with things outside of the us
Do we still prosecute noncitizen criminals?
i mean, sort of i guess? but it also depends on the support of the president from inside the government
we can prosecute them if we get them transferred to our jurisdiction
we also have blacksites around the world
that are under our jurisdiction
also u.s. citizens that communicate with foreign nationals have a lot of protections stripped away
as far as being investigated
you can pretty much investigate them for any reason at all
you just need a fisa warrant which is insanely easy to get
the sort of initial justification to investigate is very loosely terrorism related and you can use any other "evidence" you obtain during the investigation
well it's not just terrorism really but in the interest of national security
and national security needs can be interpreted however you want to
so they can investigate biden's son because of his dealings with foreign nationals and if they uncover evidence of corruption during it, they can use that evidence
and because they aren't really investigating biden specifically, they can use evidence that might turn up to show biden also being implicated in this corruption conspiracy
The law is usually interpreted along these lines. Like we aren't technically doing this investigation to find corruption but doing this investigation in the interest of national security will probably turn up evidence of corruption and we can just say that we stumbled upon this evidence by circumstance.
The normal rules regarding exclusion of evidence don't apply to these national security investigations is the crux.
trump 2020
impeach him for what?
1. Federal election rule violations / crimes 2. Using the office for his own enrichment instead of the countries 3.
Obstruction of justice
@pennypal agreed trump is evil and needs to be put in jail
trump wont get kicked out of office, impeachment will fail
however, i do support an impeachment inquiry, as it allows the democrats (mainly, im pretty sure 1 or 2 republicans are along) to continue investigating
Honestly I don't mind them investigating much, it's the double standard that gets me.
agreed
Double standard... like Trump ignores ALL precedents and you're upset about Pelosi ignoring precedent?
It's a two way street
If you hold Trump's involvement in the Ukraine as being a problem that is entirely fair, I agree, but any mention of the same mindset being applied to biden is immediately dismissed. That's an example of the double standard.
Trump 2020
Nah
Well, Trump is one of the only individuals I have hope in
He's probably gonna fuck up the economy
Well it's already fucked up in a sense
This trade war's been pretty not great
Idk I honestly don't care much for any of the candidates
i dont think its just trump's fault, congress hasnt lowered their deficit since 2015
At least Tulsi isn't an interventionist I guess
That's also a factor