Message from @Throttles

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2019-10-24 20:31:55 UTC  

>nation conducts religiously motivated expansionism

"where's the prosperity"

2019-10-24 20:31:56 UTC  

GG @Zandu, you just advanced to level 8!

2019-10-24 20:31:56 UTC  

That is literally not my point

2019-10-24 20:31:57 UTC  

Response to?

2019-10-24 20:31:58 UTC  

No, lol.

2019-10-24 20:32:19 UTC  

That religious fundamentalist nations are less prosperous than pluralistic nations

2019-10-24 20:32:26 UTC  

How so?

2019-10-24 20:32:26 UTC  

Oh.

2019-10-24 20:32:31 UTC  

I agree.

2019-10-24 20:32:32 UTC  

The happiest and most prosperous nations are pluralist

2019-10-24 20:32:45 UTC  

That is based on progressive standards

2019-10-24 20:32:52 UTC  

"happiest"

2019-10-24 20:32:57 UTC  

china is so unprosperous guys, the iron fist of their one party system and lack of religious diversity is really tearing up the place

2019-10-24 20:32:59 UTC  

PCPPP and UNQOLI

2019-10-24 20:33:01 UTC  

Nah, there are objective factors that define happiness.

2019-10-24 20:33:05 UTC  

they're so unhappy with how successful they are I bet

2019-10-24 20:33:08 UTC  

If you read "Why Nations Fail", you'll see why pluralistic nations are more economically prosperous.

2019-10-24 20:33:10 UTC  

yes, 40% suicide rate in athiest LGBTQ scum are happy and prosperous

2019-10-24 20:33:28 UTC  

Now you're taking her idea too far.

2019-10-24 20:33:29 UTC  

@Deleted User Based on progressive standards, Progressive nations are doing better than everyone else

2019-10-24 20:33:36 UTC  

correlation does not imply causation.

2019-10-24 20:33:43 UTC  

No, have you read the book?

2019-10-24 20:33:48 UTC  

It's not based on progressive standards.

2019-10-24 20:33:50 UTC  

So PCPPP is a progressive standard?

2019-10-24 20:33:54 UTC  

^

2019-10-24 20:33:55 UTC  

Or do you not know what that means

2019-10-24 20:33:59 UTC  

How is "economically prosperous" based on progressive standards?

2019-10-24 20:34:07 UTC  

Would love to know

2019-10-24 20:34:43 UTC  

In WNF, they explain that it's hardly because of culture or geography that nations fail, but because of their political institutions.

2019-10-24 20:34:54 UTC  

like how kicking out nonwhites from a nation would be "a massive damage to population and birth rates", therefore making your nation "economically inprosperous"

2019-10-24 20:35:10 UTC  

Lol

2019-10-24 20:35:15 UTC  

Ok let’s hear it

2019-10-24 20:35:26 UTC  

What do you envision would happen if you kicked out non whites

2019-10-24 20:35:41 UTC  

do you want FBI crime statistics or what

2019-10-24 20:35:44 UTC  

No, that book does not talk about that.

2019-10-24 20:36:00 UTC  

That’s their point though, it’s what they’re arguing

2019-10-24 20:38:26 UTC  

In the book, one example made is N. Korea and S. Korea, where the former is worlds apart from its counterpart. N.Korea is an isolationist homogenous nation because of famine, political repression and changing economic institutions. Whereas in S. Korea, they've made a society that supplied incentives, rewarded innovation, and allowed everyone to participate in economic opportunities. The economic success thus caused was sustained because the government became accountable and responsive to its citizens.

2019-10-24 20:39:06 UTC  

Hence why a mix of command and free market is good

2019-10-24 20:41:21 UTC  

"what would happen if you kicked all the muslims out"
hungary: lowest islamic population.... lowest islamic terror attacks

germany: welcomes increasing islamic population, rape epidemic and needs concrete barriers so trucks don't drive over christmas markets

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2019-10-24 20:41:27 UTC  

The state creates incentives for people to invest/innovate, this is supplied through funding of education and infrastructure, and the state is held accountable by its citizens rather than a monopoly that is handled by a small elite. People in politics must establish institutions and laws which work for the majority of people. I agree with some of this.

2019-10-24 20:41:47 UTC  

It’s always been the case