Message from @Sh0t

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2019-10-31 18:23:52 UTC  

such as?

2019-10-31 18:23:54 UTC  

1906 pure food and drug act in FDA's case

2019-10-31 18:24:04 UTC  

the guy who was behind that was kind of nuts

2019-10-31 18:24:18 UTC  

Wiley

2019-10-31 18:24:21 UTC  

without the FDA we wouldnt know what was in our food and drugs

2019-10-31 18:24:31 UTC  

the free market could not operate without it

2019-10-31 18:24:58 UTC  

I can understand the reason fo rhaving a watchdog, but I think that attributes the wrong motives to the origins of som eof these agencies

2019-10-31 18:25:16 UTC  

who cares about the origins?

2019-10-31 18:25:17 UTC  

they all came around in the same 20 year window, the federal erserve included, trying to cartelize and become a corporatist state was the agenda

2019-10-31 18:25:24 UTC  

I do, because they are operating as intended

2019-10-31 18:25:31 UTC  

nonsense

2019-10-31 18:25:40 UTC  

these agencies are comprised of real people

2019-10-31 18:25:46 UTC  

not some shadowy cartels

2019-10-31 18:25:59 UTC  

plenty of good people work there, some are also in the revolving door with the drug companies

2019-10-31 18:26:09 UTC  

yes, I agree

2019-10-31 18:26:10 UTC  

i have a familial connection with the fda, i know they are good people

2019-10-31 18:26:22 UTC  

the solution to that is more regulation, not less

2019-10-31 18:26:25 UTC  

I can't ignore the revolving door and the politics and think nothing is wrong

2019-10-31 18:26:32 UTC  

yeah, I agree

2019-10-31 18:26:36 UTC  

it needs to be legislated out

2019-10-31 18:26:44 UTC  

well I will say 'reform', because some times the regulations are in the direction of LESS health

2019-10-31 18:26:51 UTC  

it's not as simple as 'more regulation' but i get what you mean

2019-10-31 18:27:12 UTC  

for example, with the fda, the issue of how they operate as a caretlization device to really hurt smaller firms is no joke

2019-10-31 18:27:16 UTC  

we need major lobbying reform- there is no question there

2019-10-31 18:27:19 UTC  

is that a 'more reuglation' issue?

2019-10-31 18:27:28 UTC  

or is it 'reform'? maybe needs a new title

2019-10-31 18:27:43 UTC  

exactly what the FDA should and shouldn't do is up for debate, absolutely

2019-10-31 18:27:55 UTC  

but typically what libertarians say is that it should not exist

2019-10-31 18:27:55 UTC  

i also rememebr when the FDA was going around trying hard to crush the holistic health industry

2019-10-31 18:28:04 UTC  

wanting vitamins to be by prescription, etc

2019-10-31 18:28:13 UTC  

yeah I mean the holistic health industry is just charlatans

2019-10-31 18:28:19 UTC  

they absolutely should be crushed

2019-10-31 18:28:20 UTC  

Sinclair Lewis?. exposed the horrible practices of the meat industry before regulation in his book the Jungle
Very compelling book
Read it in Junior high

2019-10-31 18:28:25 UTC  

that's what the FDA should do

2019-10-31 18:28:30 UTC  

might be, but i guess that's where a libertarian mindset comes into conflict with some other views

2019-10-31 18:28:42 UTC  

so, a rule of the free market

2019-10-31 18:28:45 UTC  

is perfect information

2019-10-31 18:28:45 UTC  

yea we've all read teh Jungle i'm sure

2019-10-31 18:28:54 UTC  

The meat industry was horrific

2019-10-31 18:29:03 UTC  

part of the meat industry situatoin was due to the ICC

2019-10-31 18:29:11 UTC  

it's a problem that people are consuming things presented as medicine, when they themselves are not doctors