yea we've all read teh Jungle i'm sure

The meat industry was horrific

part of the meat industry situatoin was due to the ICC

it's a problem that people are consuming things presented as medicine, when they themselves are not doctors

and the issue of refrigration

that also came around in the same era for the same reasons

Doesn't matter what the issue it's just an example of what happens when capitalism is unregulated

you need to have an agency who has published standards that can simple say what is and is not medicine

it wasn't though

There are always new technological issues

there was a regulatory issue there, it was about price controls

sinclair understood if you read interviews by him

he knew about he cartelization attempts , the big 5 meat packers

It all goes down to who you trust

modern day people that mention the Jungle don't really know about the economic history of the time

I agree I don't know about the economic history. What does it matter

the blueprint of all of it was the ICC and the railroads, which included refridgerated rail road cars, etc

it matters because if you get the history wrong, you will come to the wrong conclusion

That's why we have elected representatives.... To do the research and figure it out

the big 5 meat packers were trying to cartelize the industry, and kill their smaller competitiors

Why are we talking about this in Trump channel

As a private citizen I can't figure out everything

well the problem there is the elected reps or their challegners might be in the pay of effectively the same people

So I vote for people who should be doing that

which is exactly what happened 100-120 years ago to get us into this mess

No I agree they can be bought off...but it's still the way it should work in the way we should fight for it to work

Even worse because they used the idea of a phony 'consumer rights' as a cover story, but it was really about cartelizing their industry

It's the best option we've got

this is where i think progressives sometimes get in trouble because they often can't understand the more slick economic warfare tricks

I dunno, that's kind of where i become more libertarian because without really looking at things sharply, you can walk into traps

I'm not a progressive. I'm a moderate

not saying you, but just that model of thinking

Gotcha

I agree we get into trouble when we want simple answers

@Platinum Spark would you allow people to sell it if it was properly labeled? YOu would just simply outlaw the whole holistic 'health' industry?

Me? No idea.

That's why I'm not running for congress

and keep in mind as well, this is happenign near the same time marijuana started to become illegal

people back then were told about all these horrors and dangers of marijuana, it will do this and do that

mostly all bullshit as we know, but that was a huge selling point, and not much different than what you are saying here @Platinum Spark

Legalize marijuana