Message from @NewRogernomics

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2020-01-08 04:59:59 UTC  

@Sh0t You’re right about the Iran deal. I read the Act myself. It would’ve been much easier if AP news cited where in the Act it said that.

2020-01-08 05:02:12 UTC  

so what does that mean for Trump's statements on Iran and Obama?

2020-01-08 05:02:27 UTC  

Was he lying to his audience?

2020-01-08 05:03:00 UTC  

They are somewhat misleading. Another political half truth

2020-01-08 05:04:19 UTC  

Although in some ways, Trump was correct about that, he just said it in an over-dramatic way

2020-01-08 05:06:00 UTC  

it was sowing the seeds for pulling out of a deal that was helping to normalize us relations with iran

2020-01-08 05:06:12 UTC  

exactly what the neocons wanted and what we are getting now as we shoot at each other

2020-01-08 05:07:16 UTC  

Trump is petty in the sense, whatever Obama did, good or bad, Trump has been determined to bring it crashing down. The Iran deal included.

2020-01-08 05:08:49 UTC  

A lot of it is he wants to tear down "the Obama legacy" and be the guy who passes all the great deals and "saves the county". Trump believes his own campaign propaganda.

2020-01-08 05:08:51 UTC  
2020-01-08 05:09:49 UTC  

they knew what they were doing in the campaign, it wasn't just 'pettiness', look at who was backing them and participating. obama stood up to the israelis and saudis a bit

2020-01-08 05:10:35 UTC  

undoing obama was about more than just ego, it was a strategy of rolling back the clock on purging neoconservatism

2020-01-08 05:10:58 UTC  

Of course, but Trump is uber petty about it.

2020-01-08 05:11:11 UTC  

It comes through in all his tweets.

2020-01-08 05:13:00 UTC  

It is a lot of ego motivating his decisions.

2020-01-08 05:13:49 UTC  

thats' the cover man

2020-01-08 05:14:29 UTC  

"He's too dumb to be hurting America on purpose"

2020-01-08 05:14:49 UTC  

the pettiness is for show for his base, it gets them pumped

2020-01-08 05:15:00 UTC  

that's putting the sail into the wind to power the strategy

2020-01-08 05:15:08 UTC  

he's a performance artist

2020-01-08 05:15:21 UTC  

Lol. Pence and others do the heavy lifting. He is amateur compared to them.

2020-01-08 05:17:04 UTC  

Pence was a PR move to get the evangelicals, as were sessions and some others

2020-01-08 05:17:04 UTC  

Those wanting to impeach Trump don't get that Pence is a political insider that knows how to get what he wants. So it was 4D chess to make his VP worse than himself.

2020-01-08 05:17:10 UTC  

it's how they got ann coulter and the like on board

2020-01-08 05:17:13 UTC  

then they were discarded

2020-01-08 05:17:22 UTC  

as were the less crazy natsec types like mattis

2020-01-08 05:18:11 UTC  

dont be surprised if pence is replaced with Nimrata

2020-01-08 05:18:34 UTC  

Pence was a PR move to cover for a guy with 2 divorces and a history of being a playboy

2020-01-08 05:18:53 UTC  

da fuck somebody like DONALD TRUMP is getting voted for by evangelicals?

2020-01-08 05:19:02 UTC  

but they are that dumb, as bannon predicted

2020-01-08 05:19:12 UTC  

then he was discarded too

2020-01-08 05:19:51 UTC  

It is a toxic mix of neo con and neo liberal foreign policy.

2020-01-08 05:20:36 UTC  

Both are pretty catastrophic world views.

2020-01-08 05:20:43 UTC  

who is repesenting the neoliberals in the trump foreign policy team

2020-01-08 05:21:18 UTC  

Those crashing and burning the EPA,etc. xD

2020-01-08 05:21:28 UTC  

those aren't neoliberals

2020-01-08 05:21:48 UTC  

and you said 'foreign policy'

2020-01-08 05:22:06 UTC  

Yeah they are. It is essentially the war lobby elite.

2020-01-08 05:22:45 UTC  

both have their views on war, but there are no neolibs in trump admin

2020-01-08 05:23:05 UTC  

There is a correlation between the fossil fuel die hards and the war lobby.

2020-01-08 05:23:09 UTC  

neolib foreign policy is lead by Richard Haass