Message from @Solid Snake Plissken

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2019-09-10 16:00:32 UTC  

Yea but the founding of America was shaped by Christian moral truths. Of course it wasn’t a theocracy but understand that Christian ethos were involved.

2019-09-10 16:00:46 UTC  

No it wasn’t

2019-09-10 16:01:30 UTC  

The foundations of common law predate Christianity, the western legal traditions that American draws from are graeco-Roman in origin

2019-09-10 16:04:17 UTC  

And remember, the American colonists were largely anti-episcopal

2019-09-10 16:04:33 UTC  

In other words, explicitly rejecting religious legal framework

2019-09-10 16:04:35 UTC  

The founders were not simply “deist” they were deist Christians if you actually look at what they believed in it is very clear that there dedication to Christianity was clear in their own mind.

2019-09-10 16:04:45 UTC  

False

2019-09-10 16:04:58 UTC  

Thomas Jefferson even said he doubted the divinity of Christ

2019-09-10 16:05:02 UTC  

I thought it was a combination of freedom of religion and speech

2019-09-10 16:05:22 UTC  

Yes freedom from the Episcopalian anglicans

2019-09-10 16:05:39 UTC  

Christianity did have an involvement in the creation of America.

2019-09-10 16:05:43 UTC  

It did not

2019-09-10 16:05:49 UTC  

Cite your source

2019-09-10 16:06:04 UTC  

but then again, each amendment is different and the government did create itself again (continental congress)

2019-09-10 16:07:03 UTC  

Deists reject the idea of a god that cares about individual mortal dealings and dictating morality

2019-09-10 16:07:26 UTC  

To say that they were “Christian deists” still rejects the legal framework as Christian

2019-09-10 16:08:05 UTC  

Yea it means their dedication to Christianity was clear in his own mind.

2019-09-10 16:08:16 UTC  

There is a difference.

2019-09-10 16:08:39 UTC  

Whose own mind

2019-09-10 16:08:58 UTC  

That’s not what deism means

2019-09-10 16:09:10 UTC  

Whew

2019-09-10 16:09:18 UTC  

I been threw a ringer

2019-09-10 16:09:54 UTC  

Christian deists consider themselves to be disciples, or students, of Jesus because Jesus taught the natural laws of God. But Christian deists believe that Jesus was only human.

2019-09-10 16:10:02 UTC  

Uh no

2019-09-10 16:10:09 UTC  

Where did you learn that

2019-09-10 16:11:21 UTC  

It’s literally their in the definition. Clearly your an atheist of course you wouldn’t know jack about religion if you can’t associate your self with it and see for your self the interpretations it has.

2019-09-10 16:12:08 UTC  

It doesn’t make sense to me that you are denying any religious involvement ever existed.

2019-09-10 16:12:29 UTC  

In the founding process.

2019-09-10 16:12:37 UTC  

Here is the definition of deism:

2019-09-10 16:12:40 UTC  

belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe. The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and 18th centuries that accepted the existence of a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural deity who interacts with humankind.

2019-09-10 16:13:59 UTC  

So your definition is not “the literal definition”

2019-09-10 16:14:06 UTC  

Which is why I asked where you learned it

2019-09-10 16:14:16 UTC  

Christian deism is similar to that but believe in moral Christian values taught by Christ.

2019-09-10 16:14:38 UTC  

They didn’t believe Christ was supernatural they would say he was human instead.

2019-09-10 16:14:42 UTC  

That is not accurate

2019-09-10 16:14:47 UTC  

Where did you learn that?

2019-09-10 16:15:09 UTC  

You are using the word deism and not (Christian deism)

2019-09-10 16:15:31 UTC  

They are not the exact same they have different interpretations of the word deism.

2019-09-10 16:15:43 UTC  

not all governments are official christian tho

2019-09-10 16:15:43 UTC  

GG @3v6en8, you just advanced to level 2!

2019-09-10 16:15:44 UTC  

I know what they mean