Message from @Jefferson Davis

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2019-11-15 13:52:56 UTC  

very un WASP-like. Too much fun.

2019-11-15 13:53:49 UTC  

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2019-11-15 13:53:58 UTC  

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2019-11-15 13:54:21 UTC  

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2019-11-15 13:54:32 UTC  

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2019-11-15 13:54:42 UTC  

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2019-11-15 13:56:08 UTC  

Woah

2019-11-15 13:56:19 UTC  

Ugandan knuckles having good time eh?

2019-11-15 14:07:57 UTC  

Very nice

2019-11-15 14:25:42 UTC  

back

2019-11-15 14:25:42 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 4!

2019-11-15 14:26:00 UTC  

nelson the construction of china town was like 30 years before it

2019-11-15 14:26:11 UTC  

nonetheless

2019-11-15 14:26:19 UTC  

let's go back to morality

2019-11-15 14:26:34 UTC  

what's the foundation of the secular morals based upon?

2019-11-15 14:27:37 UTC  

Operational Art. Empathy.

2019-11-15 14:29:43 UTC  

empathy is the moral foundation of secularism?

2019-11-15 14:42:44 UTC  

basic ingredients are sentience, ability to understand harm and consequences, and what functional relationships and societies flourish as.

2019-11-15 14:42:52 UTC  

Theory of mind, etc

2019-11-15 14:43:03 UTC  

Redarded

2019-11-15 14:43:10 UTC  

To begin to build the world, you have to learn to trust strangers. Immorality is antithetical to that.

2019-11-15 15:09:22 UTC  

ability of understand harm and consequences? is the harm of other for your benefit morally good if it benefits you and society?

2019-11-15 15:13:58 UTC  

Be more specific. Surgery can be seen as a temporary harm, but ultimately good for me and society.

2019-11-15 15:15:47 UTC  

Mind you, there's no 100% of good or bad. Every is a balance of pros and cons, which we often screw up or are unable to alter.

2019-11-15 15:17:33 UTC  

In a scenario where you're a german in nazi germany

2019-11-15 15:17:40 UTC  

and you have a hiding jew in your home

2019-11-15 15:18:05 UTC  

and a officers comes knocking at your door to ask you if there's a jew inside

2019-11-15 15:18:17 UTC  

will you tell the truth in that moral grading?

2019-11-15 15:19:44 UTC  

Depends on your moral priorities, how effective a liar you think you are, your estimation of the likelihood of them searching your house, etc

2019-11-15 15:20:27 UTC  

Chances are, if you tell them you are hiding a jew, you are going to get in trouble anyway, so it might not matter if you decide to 'be honest' for your fate

2019-11-15 15:21:10 UTC  

Nope, I wouldn't. I actively plot to bomb the Reichstag on top of that. We playing with Kant now?

2019-11-15 15:21:15 UTC  

but lying would affect the nazi german society

2019-11-15 15:21:19 UTC  

Assuming I'm as I am now

2019-11-15 15:21:40 UTC  

Which far from certain. Germans took to Nazi culture for a reason.

2019-11-15 15:22:09 UTC  

How would my single lie regarding a hidden jew affect german society?

2019-11-15 15:23:32 UTC  

because according to them jewish were detrimental for german society

2019-11-15 15:27:53 UTC  

The nazis had all sorts of opposition until the violence shut everybody up

2019-11-15 15:28:10 UTC  

And I can disagree with that, same with people saying gay marriage is bad for society.

2019-11-15 15:28:18 UTC  

Some specifically disliked the anti-antisemitism but liked everything else

2019-11-15 15:28:44 UTC  

the gay slippery slope did happen tbh