@Cuccolover God has always been. He wasn't formed

We dont know how life came to be. We may someday, but we do not know now.

Just because we dont know how life came to be doesn't mean "god did it" or that god even exists

Same for life

Universe has always been

Life has always been

You could argue that life has always been

@Cuccolover Wrong. Because if that were true, we would have no sun.

Not to mention no earth

My dude, those stars you see far away

half of them are gone.

Those are suns of the planets nearby those stars

You can *believe* that there is some overarching force or god or whatever, I'm lukewarm to that myself, but there isn't any real way you can *prove* this other than through assertions.

Solar systems aren't unique you know

There's more than just this one

The sun is dying out and the earth is dying out. If it has "always been", then it would be dying

How do you know god has always been though?

You can't

You are special pleading yusa

Because he "has to" have been, you see.

For some reason they don't understand applying the answer to God didn't actually solve the equation

this old chestnut

It's more of an excuse to refrain from admitting that you _can't possibly know_

@Cobra Commander You can't **know** God exists. But it takes less faith then believing that something that contradicts the laws of nature exists

There ya go

So basically, it just feels right

Because it feels wrong not to know

It doesn't though, because by definition god is entirely disconnected from laws of nature to begin with

If you cant prove god's existence, then why believe in him?

Cognitive dissonance at best

@Cobra Commander Well, if God created the laws of nature, that makes sense

It doesn't feel safe to have insecurity over the matter

How?

More sense then life coming from non-life

Any suggestion that God did that?

But God is classified as life how?

We can't measure him

Also, I will say this again, just because we dont know how life came to be, doesn't mean "god did it"

It just means we dont have an explanation

Again, you can *believe* that, but I'm arguing about *knowing.* Just claiming something is because it is isn't actually knowing.

God didn't create men, men created God. And they have done so before christianity was even a thing

Tons of Gods