Message from @Yusa

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2020-02-18 22:12:36 UTC  

Combined with instinctual influence, human activity is shaped more by things like societies, cultures, and religious doctrines. The thing is though that you *do* have cultures that are more warlike than others, and ones that do things that others would find completely intolerable. So because there are groups of people that all have at least slightly differing views of the world and their purpose, then what proof is there for a single overarching purpose besides ultimately continuing the species?

2020-02-18 22:12:44 UTC  

@Yusa How does God exist?

2020-02-18 22:12:46 UTC  

Same answer

2020-02-18 22:12:56 UTC  

Most people just take "God" out of the equation

2020-02-18 22:13:06 UTC  

Because if you can justify some high being as coming out of nowhere

2020-02-18 22:13:13 UTC  

Than why can't you apply that logic to anything else

2020-02-18 22:13:17 UTC  

@Cuccolover God has always been. He wasn't formed

2020-02-18 22:13:20 UTC  

We dont know how life came to be. We may someday, but we do not know now.

Just because we dont know how life came to be doesn't mean "god did it" or that god even exists

2020-02-18 22:13:21 UTC  

Same for life

2020-02-18 22:13:25 UTC  

Universe has always been

2020-02-18 22:13:29 UTC  

Life has always been

2020-02-18 22:13:34 UTC  

You could argue that life has always been

2020-02-18 22:13:48 UTC  

@Cuccolover Wrong. Because if that were true, we would have no sun.

2020-02-18 22:13:57 UTC  

Not to mention no earth

2020-02-18 22:14:00 UTC  

My dude, those stars you see far away

2020-02-18 22:14:06 UTC  

half of them are gone.

2020-02-18 22:14:07 UTC  

Those are suns of the planets nearby those stars

2020-02-18 22:14:17 UTC  

You can *believe* that there is some overarching force or god or whatever, I'm lukewarm to that myself, but there isn't any real way you can *prove* this other than through assertions.

2020-02-18 22:14:20 UTC  

Solar systems aren't unique you know

2020-02-18 22:14:30 UTC  

There's more than just this one

2020-02-18 22:14:45 UTC  

The sun is dying out and the earth is dying out. If it has "always been", then it would be dying

2020-02-18 22:14:52 UTC  

How do you know god has always been though?

2020-02-18 22:14:59 UTC  

You can't

2020-02-18 22:15:04 UTC  

You are special pleading yusa

2020-02-18 22:15:04 UTC  

Because he "has to" have been, you see.

2020-02-18 22:15:14 UTC  

For some reason they don't understand applying the answer to God didn't actually solve the equation

2020-02-18 22:15:17 UTC  

this old chestnut

2020-02-18 22:15:29 UTC  

It's more of an excuse to refrain from admitting that you _can't possibly know_

2020-02-18 22:15:41 UTC  

@Cobra Commander You can't **know** God exists. But it takes less faith then believing that something that contradicts the laws of nature exists

2020-02-18 22:15:51 UTC  

There ya go

2020-02-18 22:15:57 UTC  

So basically, it just feels right

2020-02-18 22:16:02 UTC  

Because it feels wrong not to know

2020-02-18 22:16:07 UTC  

It doesn't though, because by definition god is entirely disconnected from laws of nature to begin with

2020-02-18 22:16:08 UTC  

If you cant prove god's existence, then why believe in him?

2020-02-18 22:16:21 UTC  

Cognitive dissonance at best

2020-02-18 22:16:34 UTC  

@Cobra Commander Well, if God created the laws of nature, that makes sense

2020-02-18 22:16:39 UTC  

It doesn't feel safe to have insecurity over the matter

2020-02-18 22:16:41 UTC  

How?

2020-02-18 22:16:44 UTC  

More sense then life coming from non-life

2020-02-18 22:16:45 UTC  

Any suggestion that God did that?

2020-02-18 22:16:53 UTC  

But God is classified as life how?