Message from @Khaine

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2020-02-18 22:10:56 UTC  

That does not suggest that I am saying that you lied.

2020-02-18 22:11:00 UTC  

Maybe I missed a line.

2020-02-18 22:11:05 UTC  

Maybe I misunderstood something.

2020-02-18 22:11:10 UTC  

I thought the question was about man.

2020-02-18 22:12:00 UTC  

@Khaine Because it doesn't make sense that even if you have the basic ingredients to life, they randomly become life. It's against the law of biogenesis and the second law of thermodynamics

2020-02-18 22:12:13 UTC  

They don't "randomly" become life.

2020-02-18 22:12:29 UTC  

Just because we dont have another explanation for how life came to be doesn't mean that your explanation is correct

2020-02-18 22:12:34 UTC  

Nothing "randomly" becomes something.

2020-02-18 22:12:36 UTC  

Oh, then how do they become life without a guiding force?

2020-02-18 22:12:36 UTC  

Combined with instinctual influence, human activity is shaped more by things like societies, cultures, and religious doctrines. The thing is though that you *do* have cultures that are more warlike than others, and ones that do things that others would find completely intolerable. So because there are groups of people that all have at least slightly differing views of the world and their purpose, then what proof is there for a single overarching purpose besides ultimately continuing the species?

2020-02-18 22:12:44 UTC  

@Yusa How does God exist?

2020-02-18 22:12:46 UTC  

Same answer

2020-02-18 22:12:56 UTC  

Most people just take "God" out of the equation

2020-02-18 22:13:06 UTC  

Because if you can justify some high being as coming out of nowhere

2020-02-18 22:13:13 UTC  

Than why can't you apply that logic to anything else

2020-02-18 22:13:17 UTC  

@Cuccolover God has always been. He wasn't formed

2020-02-18 22:13:20 UTC  

We dont know how life came to be. We may someday, but we do not know now.

Just because we dont know how life came to be doesn't mean "god did it" or that god even exists

2020-02-18 22:13:21 UTC  

Same for life

2020-02-18 22:13:25 UTC  

Universe has always been

2020-02-18 22:13:29 UTC  

Life has always been

2020-02-18 22:13:34 UTC  

You could argue that life has always been

2020-02-18 22:13:48 UTC  

@Cuccolover Wrong. Because if that were true, we would have no sun.

2020-02-18 22:13:57 UTC  

Not to mention no earth

2020-02-18 22:14:00 UTC  

My dude, those stars you see far away

2020-02-18 22:14:06 UTC  

half of them are gone.

2020-02-18 22:14:07 UTC  

Those are suns of the planets nearby those stars

2020-02-18 22:14:17 UTC  

You can *believe* that there is some overarching force or god or whatever, I'm lukewarm to that myself, but there isn't any real way you can *prove* this other than through assertions.

2020-02-18 22:14:20 UTC  

Solar systems aren't unique you know

2020-02-18 22:14:30 UTC  

There's more than just this one

2020-02-18 22:14:45 UTC  

The sun is dying out and the earth is dying out. If it has "always been", then it would be dying

2020-02-18 22:14:52 UTC  

How do you know god has always been though?

2020-02-18 22:14:59 UTC  

You can't

2020-02-18 22:15:04 UTC  

You are special pleading yusa

2020-02-18 22:15:04 UTC  

Because he "has to" have been, you see.

2020-02-18 22:15:14 UTC  

For some reason they don't understand applying the answer to God didn't actually solve the equation

2020-02-18 22:15:17 UTC  

this old chestnut

2020-02-18 22:15:29 UTC  

It's more of an excuse to refrain from admitting that you _can't possibly know_

2020-02-18 22:15:41 UTC  

@Cobra Commander You can't **know** God exists. But it takes less faith then believing that something that contradicts the laws of nature exists

2020-02-18 22:15:51 UTC  

There ya go

2020-02-18 22:15:57 UTC  

So basically, it just feels right

2020-02-18 22:16:02 UTC  

Because it feels wrong not to know