Message from @Yusa

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2020-02-18 22:22:27 UTC  

Well, okay, but that's still not relevant.

2020-02-18 22:22:43 UTC  

Irregardless of why you did it, you still subjected my example through an examination.

2020-02-18 22:22:48 UTC  

@Cobra Commander Well, life coming from non-life has a bigger problem then God. Not only can you not prove it, but it goes against the laws of science.

2020-02-18 22:22:49 UTC  

And you're not doing that with the idea of God doing shit.

2020-02-18 22:22:50 UTC  

Why?

2020-02-18 22:23:24 UTC  

You see, if God created the laws of science, he wouldn't have been subjected to them in the beginning

2020-02-18 22:23:40 UTC  

Laws of science are created by men.

2020-02-18 22:23:46 UTC  

They're describing natural phenomenons.

2020-02-18 22:24:17 UTC  

And nature, which the men of science are describing, could have originated from non-divine means.

2020-02-18 22:24:28 UTC  

So, what you're saying is irrelevant.

2020-02-18 22:24:54 UTC  

Let me ask you a quick question

2020-02-18 22:25:05 UTC  

I literally just said that organic molecules and compounds are able to appear. There is no problem with that, but we can only infer that this leads to actual life forms instead of truly claim to know. That's why I didn't say that we know this was the case for absolute certainty.

2020-02-18 22:25:05 UTC  

Is the god you believe in omnipotent @Yusa

2020-02-18 22:25:09 UTC  

@Vlad They are describing natural phenomenons that always repeat themselves. They are the rules of nature. "Laws" are "rules".

2020-02-18 22:25:16 UTC  

K?

2020-02-18 22:26:19 UTC  

@Cobra Commander Well because I view the world differently, I can **know** that the theory of life coming from non-life is not true

2020-02-18 22:26:33 UTC  

How so?

2020-02-18 22:26:37 UTC  

You understand that you are operating on complete certainty that god exists without anything being able to substantiate that right?

2020-02-18 22:26:47 UTC  

I've answered that question 3000 times!

2020-02-18 22:26:53 UTC  

Good job!

2020-02-18 22:26:56 UTC  

lol

2020-02-18 22:27:39 UTC  

@Cobra Commander Well, now that I logically came to that conclusion, I know it's true.

2020-02-18 22:27:44 UTC  

You can't actually. You can believe that but you can easily infer that it is possible through organic compounds for primitive life forms to appear.

2020-02-18 22:27:45 UTC  

So yes

2020-02-18 22:27:53 UTC  

You didn't use logic though.

2020-02-18 22:27:59 UTC  
2020-02-18 22:28:06 UTC  

How can you infer that?

2020-02-18 22:29:01 UTC  

It takes more belief to believe that then it takes to believe in a God

2020-02-18 22:29:03 UTC  

Because you haven't used anything to actually determine that, you've only claimed it and ignored my explanation regarding how primitive life can come from pre existing organic compounds.

2020-02-18 22:29:04 UTC  

GG @Cobra Commander, you just advanced to level 28!

2020-02-18 22:29:17 UTC  

Again wrong, as already explained here.

2020-02-18 22:30:46 UTC  

You have to use more belief to come to the conclusion that "god *is* real and life *cannot* come from 'non-life'" instead of just "life can *maybe* come around due to these existing compounds"

2020-02-18 22:32:01 UTC  

Well, I did suggest he should read about hypothermal vents.

2020-02-18 22:32:05 UTC  

I don't think anyone here is claiming "life did come from non life"

2020-02-18 22:32:19 UTC  

People are saying "life could come from non life"

2020-02-18 22:33:06 UTC  

@Cobra Commander I saw your explanation and don't see how it infers that life can be "created naturally". We know that the molecules are there, but they need to be organized in a complex way to create life. This happening by random natural processes disobeys the law of biogenesis. If there was a God who created life, he would not be bound by those laws. Therefore, it is more reasonable to say that a God created the Universe.

2020-02-18 22:33:10 UTC  

God *could* exist, but there is no evidence for his existence

2020-02-18 22:34:08 UTC  

Well, those "microbes" you pondered about

2020-02-18 22:34:18 UTC  

or at least the earliest forms of microorganisms

2020-02-18 22:34:26 UTC  

It does not violate the second law of thermodynamics

2020-02-18 22:34:30 UTC  

were found in hydrothermal vents.