Message from @Vlad
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And now that I understand that you weren't answering my question, I agree with your example
Well, okay, but that's still not relevant.
Irregardless of why you did it, you still subjected my example through an examination.
@Cobra Commander Well, life coming from non-life has a bigger problem then God. Not only can you not prove it, but it goes against the laws of science.
And you're not doing that with the idea of God doing shit.
Why?
You see, if God created the laws of science, he wouldn't have been subjected to them in the beginning
Laws of science are created by men.
They're describing natural phenomenons.
And nature, which the men of science are describing, could have originated from non-divine means.
So, what you're saying is irrelevant.
Let me ask you a quick question
I literally just said that organic molecules and compounds are able to appear. There is no problem with that, but we can only infer that this leads to actual life forms instead of truly claim to know. That's why I didn't say that we know this was the case for absolute certainty.
@Vlad They are describing natural phenomenons that always repeat themselves. They are the rules of nature. "Laws" are "rules".
K?
@Cobra Commander Well because I view the world differently, I can **know** that the theory of life coming from non-life is not true
How so?
You understand that you are operating on complete certainty that god exists without anything being able to substantiate that right?
I've answered that question 3000 times!
lol
@Cobra Commander Well, now that I logically came to that conclusion, I know it's true.
You can't actually. You can believe that but you can easily infer that it is possible through organic compounds for primitive life forms to appear.
So yes
You didn't use logic though.
@Cobra Commander How?
How can you infer that?
It takes more belief to believe that then it takes to believe in a God
Because you haven't used anything to actually determine that, you've only claimed it and ignored my explanation regarding how primitive life can come from pre existing organic compounds.
GG @Cobra Commander, you just advanced to level 28!
Again wrong, as already explained here.
You have to use more belief to come to the conclusion that "god *is* real and life *cannot* come from 'non-life'" instead of just "life can *maybe* come around due to these existing compounds"
Well, I did suggest he should read about hypothermal vents.
I don't think anyone here is claiming "life did come from non life"
People are saying "life could come from non life"
@Cobra Commander I saw your explanation and don't see how it infers that life can be "created naturally". We know that the molecules are there, but they need to be organized in a complex way to create life. This happening by random natural processes disobeys the law of biogenesis. If there was a God who created life, he would not be bound by those laws. Therefore, it is more reasonable to say that a God created the Universe.
God *could* exist, but there is no evidence for his existence
Well, those "microbes" you pondered about
or at least the earliest forms of microorganisms
It does not violate the second law of thermodynamics