Message from @Dr.Cosby
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In an experiment, Louis Pasteur made a liquid broth of nutrient-rich material such as chicken broth and put it in a flask that had a curved neck
I know that spontaneous generation was disproved, and I explained how the process to the cell is most likely procedural instead of immediate; that is not spontaneous generation. I already told you to look up the Miller-Urey experiment and the creation of Proteinoids, it's interesting stuff.
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> The curved neck allowed air to reach the infusion, but because microorganisms are heavier than air, any microorganisms present would be trapped at the bottom of the curve.
> When Pasteur repeated some experiments Needham (Experiments that Needham thought proved spontaneous generation) had done in the curved flask, no microorganisms appeared.
> In a final blow, Pasteur even showed that if you tipped the flask once to allow any microorganisms that might be trapped to fall into the infusion, microorganisms would appear in the infusion.
> Thus, Pasteur showed that even microorganisms cannot spontaneously generate.
Ok
It all has to be that short?
Well, anyways.
@Cobra Commander That experiment doesn't prove anything about life coming from non-life
I genuinely don't see how you aren't getting my point
TLDR knowing why life exists is irrelevant
ultimately true
Wrong, it's everything.
Do you really want me to argue that?
Knowing why life exists is everything
I'm still horrified that Yusa lives in a world where bacteria are running around the size of rats and stuff
An actual nightmare
Yusamac you haven't been able to explain why that matters, all you've done is asserted it.
@Cobra Commander Alright, so first off, the Miller-Urey experiment uses a few assumptions about earth's early atmosphere. This is very dangerous because earth's ancient atmosphere is not observable, has not been observed by anyone, and is technically not repeatable.
uh yes it is, ice core samples are a thing.
How do you know that those "ice core samples" are from when the world began
the ice core samples contain bubbles. In those bubbles are little samples of astmpospheres, 10, 100, 10,000, 100,000 years ago.
How do you know that they are that old?
Cause we can test them chemically
Radiometric dating
also by the depth from which they are extracted, not unlike tree rings.
Science dosen't lie
@Cobra Commander Radiometric dating is unreliable and is based off of assumptions.
You can also use geological history to infer what the atmosphere was like at a given time
"infer"
No it's not, and I know you're conflating carbon dating as being the entirety of radiometric dating
there's not one single tool or method to any of this. It's a massive collaboration requiring the hard work of scientists of multiple disciplines.
And if you successfully debunked any of it, you would win a Nobel Prize.
Yeah