I'm against funding a private company that already makes millions in revenue and instead would prefer to see that money go towards opening and renovating more local health clinics

didnt think abt it like that

Yea, it's incredibly deceptive

still, its services aren't just abortions

That is true, they do other things aside from abortions, however not nearly as much as they claim, and frankly, the money could do more good elsewhere

The whole abortion topic aside, planned parenthood itself is quite the shady organization with a spotty track record of under the table selling of fetal tissue, among other things

you could say that about almost anywhere you donate money tho

what is considered doing good

how do you measure which action is better than another

those are all subjective

That it could do more good elsewhere? I would consider achieving the same benefits as planned parenthood on a larger scale with the money given to planned parenthood would be considered doing better

Going above and beyond the ability of the original organization with the same amount of cash, although subjective, would be a good start

As for the actual abortion argument, well, that's a tough one

i mean yeah...

For one, I do believe that life begins at conception. There are so many methods in our modern society to prevent an egg from being fertilized, but once that process has occurred, and, if left alone, this fertilized egg could one day be another person walking amongst us, I think it's immoral to deny that.

i agree 100%

i disagree

I'm personally an atheist, there is no grand fetus heaven. Denying the life experience of another possible person before they are even born is detrimental

but i do get your point

That's fair enough. Why do you disagree, if I might ask?

idrk how to explain um

it hasn't fully formed all the features someone of it's species would have, like lungs

sorry i can't explain this that well

That's ok. See, when you draw the line of "is it a life" at anywhere besides conception, you end up also including a portion of humans who are walking around among us

it hasn't formed all the features necessary for sustaining human life

There are people with no heartbeat, no x y z whatever part you want to bring up, who still cling to life, however I assume you don't advocate that it's acceptable to terminate them

yes, it's definitely not

but if they are clinging to life then just let them die

And even then, I don't think the ability to sustain yourself should be the criteria for will you be killed or not. And I would disagree with that

if they want to

yea

i keep bringing this up but bodily autonomy!!

I really dislike the whole "dying with dignity" phase. Some people want to fight until their last breath, and the idea that dying in that manner somehow strips you of your dignity is terrible, but anyway, back on topic

and like you're wasting a hospital bed just to keep a person thats nearly dead alive

you sound so mean

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well uh

not you, thomas lmao

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