And second off, that's not true at all, in regards to adoption. Private adoption waiting lists are in the tens of thousands long and families wait for years, with families being extensively examined in order for fitness

Show a source

Sure, one second

https://www.today.com/parents/it-takes-more-love-what-happens-when-adoption-fails-918076

https://nypost.com/2017/06/17/this-woman-stole-children-from-the-poor-to-give-to-the-rich/

https://www.americanadoptions.com/pregnant/adoption_stats

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/12/adoption-happily-ever-after-myth/418230/

https://www.americanadoptions.com/pregnant/waiting_adoptive_families

"***It is difficult to find reliable statistics to answer this question. Some sources estimate that there are about 2 million couples currently waiting to adopt in the United States — which means there are as many as 36 waiting families for every one child who is placed for adoption. ***"

Is a child struggling justification for killing them?

That is by an adoption agency of course they'll say that

And, it's not murder if they're not alive

So I give you a source, and you say "no i don't believe it"

Yes, because nobody has ever used that phrase to justify some of the worst atrocities in human histories

I'm saying your source is the people profiting off the issue

Can't be murder if they're not a person, right?

they arent alive

I didn't say that, I said they're not alive

uh yeah that's the definition of murder

If they're not alive you can not take their life

And you're telling me that the person writing their left leaning opinion piece isn't profiting, Komrade?

its not killing it if its not alive

Ok, so what determines life then?

the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.

when it is able to survive outside its mothers womb

when they can be alive outside of womb

sksksk ashna

lmao

life doesn’t begin at sentience, it begins at conception

So physical location of the fetus is what determines life?

no

no

its their ability to survive

The fetus is not experiencing brain activity until the second trimester

a fetus cant stay alive outside of the womb

A fetus at 21 weeks is not alive but a fetus 1 week later, which could survive in an NICU, is alive?

ability to sustain life without extreme reliance on their mother

and if a mother aborts her baby it eliminates the chance of survival

yes

So it's brain activity?

Yes

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