Message from @thomas the choo choo tree

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2019-05-07 14:42:11 UTC  

And, it's not murder if they're not alive

2019-05-07 14:42:16 UTC  

So I give you a source, and you say "no i don't believe it"

2019-05-07 14:42:31 UTC  

Yes, because nobody has ever used that phrase to justify some of the worst atrocities in human histories

2019-05-07 14:42:38 UTC  

I'm saying your source is the people profiting off the issue

2019-05-07 14:42:40 UTC  

Can't be murder if they're not a person, right?

2019-05-07 14:42:54 UTC  

they arent alive

2019-05-07 14:42:54 UTC  

I didn't say that, I said they're not alive

2019-05-07 14:43:00 UTC  

uh yeah that's the definition of murder

2019-05-07 14:43:18 UTC  

If they're not alive you can not take their life

2019-05-07 14:43:18 UTC  

And you're telling me that the person writing their left leaning opinion piece isn't profiting, Komrade?

2019-05-07 14:43:19 UTC  

its not killing it if its not alive

2019-05-07 14:43:39 UTC  

Ok, so what determines life then?

2019-05-07 14:44:02 UTC  

the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.

2019-05-07 14:44:12 UTC  

when it is able to survive outside its mothers womb

2019-05-07 14:44:21 UTC  

when they can be alive outside of womb

2019-05-07 14:44:25 UTC  

sksksk ashna

2019-05-07 14:44:28 UTC  

lmao

2019-05-07 14:44:39 UTC  

life doesn’t begin at sentience, it begins at conception

2019-05-07 14:44:44 UTC  

So physical location of the fetus is what determines life?

2019-05-07 14:44:50 UTC  

no

2019-05-07 14:44:51 UTC  

no

2019-05-07 14:44:55 UTC  

its their ability to survive

2019-05-07 14:45:07 UTC  

The fetus is not experiencing brain activity until the second trimester

2019-05-07 14:45:08 UTC  

a fetus cant stay alive outside of the womb

2019-05-07 14:45:10 UTC  

A fetus at 21 weeks is not alive but a fetus 1 week later, which could survive in an NICU, is alive?

2019-05-07 14:45:14 UTC  

ability to sustain life without extreme reliance on their mother

2019-05-07 14:45:15 UTC  

and if a mother aborts her baby it eliminates the chance of survival

2019-05-07 14:45:18 UTC  

yes

2019-05-07 14:45:29 UTC  

So it's brain activity?

2019-05-07 14:45:33 UTC  

Yes

2019-05-07 14:45:49 UTC  

ye

2019-05-07 14:45:53 UTC  

we literally said it multiple times

2019-05-07 14:45:54 UTC  

but ok

2019-05-07 14:45:55 UTC  

Yeetus that fetus

2019-05-07 14:46:00 UTC  

*yeetus

2019-05-07 14:46:03 UTC  

So if a person has no brain activity, with the guarantee that they will be 100% recovered in a few months, we should be able to kill them?

2019-05-07 14:46:16 UTC  

yes

2019-05-07 14:46:21 UTC  

wdym recover

2019-05-07 14:46:22 UTC  

Definitely

2019-05-07 14:46:28 UTC  

you recover brain activity?