Message from @Deleted User
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*the value of a fetus
I would make the stance that the discussion has nothing to do with woman's rights unless somebody is advocating for mandatory pregnancy i,e "You must give birth to THREE children in your lifetime"
yeah i would agree with the fact that you guys aren't TRYING to make woman's rights less
but banning abortion is
imo
Also I think the fetus being alive discussion is pointless because whether it is alive is not scientific in basis (Since all single celled organisms are technically "alive") and x y z is just an arbitrary standard to whether it is alive i,e heartbeat, brain waves, etc
it's not murder if it's not alive
but i mean yeah
that's the reason we have diff views
My view is that a zygote already contains the blueprints for a whole human being, it's a potential of a life. Potential is defined as "**having or showing the capacity to become or develop into something in the future.**" A zygote, if left untouched, has the capacity to become or develop into something into the future, therefore the potential for an independent human to exist begins at conception.
But yea, that is why we have differing views
potential for a life ≠ a life tho
To me, there is no heaven or hell, or any sort of afterlife, so this is the once chance we have at a life, and to deny that is morally apprehensible to my view
That is true, potential for a life does not always mean there will be a functional human at the end. I would argue that abortion should be permitted in medical circumstances
The mother's life being at risk, or the baby being severely impaired or deformed
yeah
wait isn't you supporting abortion when the baby is severely impaired kinda contradictory to the point of pro-life
that a fetus is a life
and unless it harms another life
hmmmm
sounds like slavery with extra steps
shut up
😤
Yes and no, do I think all those with impairment or deformity should be aborted? No, however I think there needs to be some sort of scale formed in which a fetus is rated on it's viability for life
defintley eugenics with extra steps
No, because eugenics believes in killing off groups of people or preventing them from reproducing to "preserve the human race" or some nonsense
um what
that bad
I'm saying that aborting a fetus that would die within hours of being born would not be against my moral standing since that potential for life isn't there, since it is a 100% known fact that this fetus will not have a life
Or a fetus that would 100% be a stillborn
from the eugenics pov, gay people help stop overpopulation
ohh ok
Yea eugenics is trash
lol
i really like those images of anti abortion ads that say "who will be the next police officer" its basicly two birds with one stone
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dead cops and abortion rights
ok this has been a good chat
with everyone except josh
gtg