Message from @The Lemon
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I guess we're all different dawg, some people love demonstrating their pride
For their nation, religion anything really
And about the part where "two girls kissing," it wouldnt be a bad example of it were a guy and a girl kissing, right?
Well i mentioned before that two people of same sex kissing each other while there are kids around it might not be a good example for them cuz of what i mentioned before that since they are kids their brains are still in development meaning they are not mature enough to understand what they see
But like i said im not against from gay people i just gave my opinion
And
I also said is cool of you want to go around on the street with a rainbow flag ya know thats what you wanna do then do it
Im just a happy straight boy and my way to demonstrate my pride is remaining quiet
Cuz nobody cares and it aint a big deal at least for me
But again if what you want is to let all the people know that you are gay and you feel proud about it then you are in your liberty to do it
Its a free world they told us i guess
Oh yeah, i understand you completely, sorry if it seemed harsh, and I still dont agree on the children part, it should be normal, just as it is for straight people to kiss, and for kids to see that, I suuuuupooosee?
@Chemar Its not that they can't tolerate an opposing point of view its that the entire point of the straight pride is to be confrontational to the gay pride parade. They're only doing it in an aggressive way because they don't like the idea of gay pride.
Also I find the argument that kids will find two guys or two girls kissing confusing/hilarious
Mainly cos it was used against that Arthur episode that got banned in Alabama
Like there's a Rat and an Aardvark getting married and that's completely normal
BUT THEY'RE BOTH MEN SO THE CHILDREN WOULD BE CONFUSED
It makes no sense
And the whole point of putting these kinds of things in media that potentially children will see is so that gay kids don't feel excluded as they grow up.
If anything the confusing thing is when gay kids grow up and start to realize their sexuality but if they don't see it in the media or on TV or anything they're going to think they're alone or that there's something wrong with them
@The Lemon The issue I have, in terms of groups being represented, is when they are put into a plot just for the sake of being represented. If a show has a gay, or black, or whatever main character and the show is genuinely good, then sure, that's great. What many cannot stand are two dimensional characters who are nothing but x "marginalized" group who don't expand beyond that
Take Stargate as a good example of how to do a strong lead right. This show was largely filmed in the late 90s, for reference. Samantha Carter was one of the four original members of SG-1, and some people at first did question her "for being a women." However she proved that she was incredibly smart and was one of my favorite characters on the show, she was crucial to the series. She was more than just "the woman" on the team
No I absolutely agree we shouldn't just put characters in for that reason but you should attempt to integrate some gay characters into your plot line without them being 2 dimensional characters
If you can make it fit, then sure. If, for whatever reason, the character's sexuality needs to be brought up, then more power to you. But I cannot stand things that seem forced in
Yup
And tbh it wasn't forced in in Arthur
The teacher got married turns out he was gay
Arthur did a very good job of it imo
It's not like they made a huge deal of it
Didn't make a big deal out of it, just another episode
Exactly
Another one I think is done well is tracer and soldier in overwatch
That's how it should be done. It occurs,, it's addressed, life moves on.
A lot of people criticised it but I thought it was good
Because for both of them it was never explicitly stated they were gay
It was never made a big deal of
Just with tracer you saw her with her partner in the Christmas themed comic
And for soldier he was looking through old photos with Ana again in a comic and there happened to be one with his partner
Yea, like I said, if it's done with a certain style then it's great, but you should never judge a film or show on it's "diversity"
Oh yeah absolutely