Bernie has also expressed his support for the people to own more of the means of production, that is very much socialism

because socialism is an unattainable dream

Okay, in an Interview from 1985, he said some good stuff about Castro, correct?

worker's ownership

saying good stuff about Castro is praising Castro

he's a loser hippie

I lost all respect for him after the 2016 primaries

Sorry, my internet is cutting out

he showed his true colors

and when the BLM chicks stole his microphone

you're fine

Jesus, that was pathetic

I did have some respect for him in 2016 before he sold out to hillary clinton, and before I drifted away from socialism.

Dear Lord, wtf is wrong with my internet

<:peepobad:538084182644228112> it be like that sometimes

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I liked him before I was paying attention

^ pretty much

"he just wants to HeLp PeOpLe!"

bullshit

it's at least a very misguided and faulty way to go about 'helping people'

socialism only exists to entice people into communism

which is the real goal

socialism is just the carrot on a stick

well

yeah pretty much

the idea that those entrenched in power will give their power to the proletariat is dumb

and good luck taking it from them

these idiots can't even decide what gender they are or what pronouns you should use. They're gonna take power from someone?

and Scandinavian countries are often brought up as successful examples of it when they're literally just market capitalist economies with some governmental safety nets basically

right, the Scandinavia thing is old and stupid

and they're also much smaller populations with much less territory and with much more ethnic homogeneity, among other factors making a direct comparison between these countries and the U.S. to be inherently flawed.

it's an analogy that they would laugh into oblivion if someone on the right were to try and use to justify anything

probably yeah

but it's all they have

so they cling to it

every other instance is "ThAt WaSn'T ReAl SoCiAlIsM!"

lefties were in love with Venezuela until it went tits up

yeah really

you'll also see defenses pop up for china, although they're more just authoritarian than hardline communists

point stands though