Message from @Cuccolover
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because again, suppression from religion
Not remotely accurate
But I don’t expect you don be versed in American history
LMFAO
So you're gonna deny the 80 year war not having a religious underground to it all
You're gonna deny the whole foundation of my country
and the reason America was all free and whatnot
Sophie
My fucking god
I’m denying religion as a primary driver of the 80 years war
And are you talking about the foundation of the colonies?
Or the American Revolution?
you can deny all you want
you can't rewrite history
Because there are hundreds of years between them
Ok, your blanket statements notwithstanding
Do you have an answer to the question?
if you’re going to be this rude you may want to be a bit more knowledgeable.
There's nothing rude pointing out history
Count the wars based on religion
I'll be waiting
The 80 years war was primarily about credit and getting out from Spanish rule
yeah because of their religious suppression
...no
Yeah
Because the Dutch wanted self rule
We weren't a country
We wanted a country, BECAUSE of those conditions
The religious aspect was a convenient think to rally around
But even if the Netherlands had been entirely catholic
The Dutch would still be their own national identity, with a will to self govern, and better credit than the Spanish crown
Now do you have an answer to my question about the American Revolution? Because it was very much not about religious freedom.
In fact the belligerents were all the same religion
they fled from Britian for what reason?
Depends on the colony
Some of the pilgrims were puritans, for sure
But there’s over 250 years between them showing up in America and the war of independence
If you want to make that point it would actually better be made about the English civil war
But that again was more about parliamentary power vs noble authority