Or the fact that America was established because protestants weren't as free as they wanted to be

because again, suppression from religion

Not remotely accurate

But I don’t expect you don be versed in American history

LMFAO

So you're gonna deny the 80 year war not having a religious underground to it all

You're gonna deny the whole foundation of my country

and the reason America was all free and whatnot

Sophie

My fucking god

I’m denying religion as a primary driver of the 80 years war

And are you talking about the foundation of the colonies?

Or the American Revolution?

you can deny all you want

you can't rewrite history

Because there are hundreds of years between them

Ok, your blanket statements notwithstanding

Do you have an answer to the question?

if you’re going to be this rude you may want to be a bit more knowledgeable.

There's nothing rude pointing out history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion

Here try reading something

Count the wars based on religion

I'll be waiting

The 80 years war was primarily about credit and getting out from Spanish rule

yeah because of their religious suppression

...no

Yeah

Because the Dutch wanted self rule

We weren't a country

We wanted a country, BECAUSE of those conditions

The religious aspect was a convenient think to rally around

But even if the Netherlands had been entirely catholic

The Dutch would still be their own national identity, with a will to self govern, and better credit than the Spanish crown

Now do you have an answer to my question about the American Revolution? Because it was very much not about religious freedom.

In fact the belligerents were all the same religion

they fled from Britian for what reason?

Depends on the colony

Some of the pilgrims were puritans, for sure

But there’s over 250 years between them showing up in America and the war of independence

If you want to make that point it would actually better be made about the English civil war