And?

in latin

In what language honey?

Ok, what empire spoke Latin?

Okay and?

It was the title of the subdivision of military governors

GG @Sophie, you just advanced to level 17!

you do realize most of our words right now are from latin

Does this pertain to <#513098563924918273> ?

Lkke

like including germanic languages

Who cares

which English is

Well that’s just wrong but different issue

I can say "aquarium" comes from the latin word "aqua"

doesn't mean that Rome had a noble system in zoology

The dejure kingdoms came directly from the cultural partitions that Rome made to settle barbarian tribes

Like, where do you think the mediavel system came from

They just invented it out of thin air?

There were existing vassalage relationships in Gaul and Iberia

This is why Charlemagne wanted to be crowned emperor of Rome...

Nobility
The term derives from Latin nobilitas, the abstract noun of the adjective nobilis ("well-known, famous, notable"). In ancient Roman society, nobiles originated as an informal designation for the political governing class who had allied interests, including both patricians and plebeian families (gentes) with an ancestor who had risen to the consulship through his own merit (see novus homo, "new man").

“A duke (male) can either be a monarch ranked below the emperor, king, and grand duke ruling over a duchy or a member of royalty or nobility, historically of highest rank, below princes of nobility and grand dukes. The title comes from French duc, itself from the Latin dux, 'leader', a term used in republican Rome to refer to a military commander without an official rank (particularly one of Germanic or Celtic origin), and later coming to mean the leading military commander of a province. “

Yeah, that’s centuries earlier though

A noble didn't hold power

We’re talking late antiquity here

there was no class

No, that’s in the republic

What happened was that there were these heavy tax burdens for the upkeep of the western empire

And mandatory military service

So plebs often wanted to avoid military service, while wealthy landowners wanted their land worked

So they would pay off debts of their plebeian workers and shelter them from military service

Then just build their own walls, as the army was becoming less effective and raids picking up

That’s where we get the real start of feudalism in the fall of the empire- now where those wealthy landowners came from

We’re the wealthy patrician and merchants and military commanders who had bought or recurved land grants in the provinces

For centuries Rome had held onto land with a combination of land grants to veterans and selling off farmland to wealthy patrons

The whole wealthy warlord thing really took off in the crisis of the 3rd century, which is also when Christianity started really taking off in Britain

But the idea that class struggle and largehold vs smallhold/peasant representation was like, invented with the codification of the peerage system

Is just moronic

really?

so what about the class system with the pope