Alright well I'm off to bed

The origins of noble authority predated Christianity in Britain

We tend to associate the arrival of Christianity in Britain with the mission of Augustine in 597 AD. But in fact Christianity arrived long before then, and in the 1st Century AD, there wasn't an organised attempt to convert the British.

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It began when Roman artisans and traders arriving in Britain spread the story of Jesus along with stories of their Pagan deities.

The modern peerage system is a vestige of the custom of English kings in the 12th and 13th centuries in summoning wealthy individuals (along with church officials and elected representatives for commoners) to form a Parliament. The economic system at the time was manorialism (or feudalism), and the privilege of being summoned to Parliament was related to the amount of land one controlled (a "barony"). In the late 14th century, this right (or "title") began to be granted by decree, and titles also became inherited with the rest of an estate under the system of primogeniture. Non-hereditary positions began to be created again in 1867 for Law Lords, and in 1958 generally.

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1st century vs 12th and 13th

The origins of British nobility predate the modern peerage system

It evolved out of Romano-British nobility and the local warlords

Who in many instances were one in the same

European nobility originated in the feudal/seignorial system that arose in Europe during the Middle Ages.

Lol uuuh no.

It didn’t spring fully formed

Have any proof of that?

It came directly from the Roman governmental system

Shut up gender isn't real

Yep, the word duke comes from dux, which was a Roman military governor title

These aren't gender issues

Bruh

dux means leader

And?

in latin

In what language honey?

Ok, what empire spoke Latin?

Okay and?

It was the title of the subdivision of military governors

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you do realize most of our words right now are from latin

Does this pertain to <#513098563924918273> ?

Lkke

like including germanic languages

Who cares

which English is

Well that’s just wrong but different issue

I can say "aquarium" comes from the latin word "aqua"

doesn't mean that Rome had a noble system in zoology

The dejure kingdoms came directly from the cultural partitions that Rome made to settle barbarian tribes

Like, where do you think the mediavel system came from

They just invented it out of thin air?

There were existing vassalage relationships in Gaul and Iberia

This is why Charlemagne wanted to be crowned emperor of Rome...

Nobility
The term derives from Latin nobilitas, the abstract noun of the adjective nobilis ("well-known, famous, notable"). In ancient Roman society, nobiles originated as an informal designation for the political governing class who had allied interests, including both patricians and plebeian families (gentes) with an ancestor who had risen to the consulship through his own merit (see novus homo, "new man").

“A duke (male) can either be a monarch ranked below the emperor, king, and grand duke ruling over a duchy or a member of royalty or nobility, historically of highest rank, below princes of nobility and grand dukes. The title comes from French duc, itself from the Latin dux, 'leader', a term used in republican Rome to refer to a military commander without an official rank (particularly one of Germanic or Celtic origin), and later coming to mean the leading military commander of a province. “