Message from @The Lemon

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2019-04-10 14:55:51 UTC  

And if you can't see how bad nutrition would affect a baby's weight at birth you are a special kind of stupid

2019-04-10 14:56:05 UTC  

Its the impression I got from your rhetoric

2019-04-10 14:56:40 UTC  

Also I'm not gay and I am studying science at uni so you can fuck right off with your "queer non scientist" statement

2019-04-10 14:57:05 UTC  

Don't assume shit about me

2019-04-10 14:57:39 UTC  

There are white and black communities in America that are malnourished though. And the Federal government gives out food stamps to black families to fix such a problem regardless.

2019-04-10 14:58:21 UTC  

We wuz lead poisoned

2019-04-10 14:58:31 UTC  

We wuz starved

2019-04-10 14:58:43 UTC  

But we wuz Kangs and Sheiiiit

2019-04-10 14:59:02 UTC  

If you actually looked at the article you'd see the statistics were found in New York an urban area where poorer areas tend to be predominantly black rather than in the post industrial mid west where poorer areas tend to be predominantly white

2019-04-10 14:59:52 UTC  

And?

2019-04-10 15:00:34 UTC  

Therefore the areas with higher rates of malnutrition (the poorer areas) are likely to be predominantly black skewing the statistics for black babies being born underweight when that variable isn't controlled for

2019-04-10 15:00:50 UTC  

Do you need everything to be spelled out for you?

2019-04-10 15:04:38 UTC  

Ah, but are they malnourished as a failure of their own, and thus as group (race) or are they malnourished because of some conspiracy against black people? I mean, if both parents are working at least a minimum wage job, and if they receive food stamps, their children shouldn’t be malnourished, or at least not to a large extent, an extent of which does not disprove the thesis of the Article.

2019-04-10 15:05:01 UTC  

And you still haven’t made a comment of the actual study I cited.

2019-04-10 15:05:24 UTC  

I haven't had a chance to look at that, I don't read at the speed of light jesus

2019-04-10 15:05:48 UTC  

Remember your thesis was that race mixing doesn’t have any negative effects.

2019-04-10 15:06:34 UTC  

And your article doesn't prove that race mixing doesn't have any negative effects

2019-04-10 15:07:00 UTC  

The null hypothesis here is that race mixing does not have negative effects as there is no logical genetic reason for it to have negative effects

2019-04-10 15:09:46 UTC  

It proves that mixed race children have higher rates of infant mortality than white children especially. I didn’t say that racing mixing’s negative effects are genetic alone though. There are also negative social and psychological effects.

2019-04-10 15:10:09 UTC  

Also you talk about conspiracy against black people as if its something unrealistic while forgetting that there was government policies that stopped people of certain races from buying property in better off neighbourhoods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

2019-04-10 15:12:42 UTC  

To say that it proves something you would have to firstly control those statistics for non-related variables like household income and nutrition, then you would have to ensure that appropriate sampling methods were used to ensure there was no bias in the data and finally you would have to perform some kind of hypothesis test to prove that assuming the null hypothesis these differences are significantly unlikely to prove a deviation from the null hypothesis you clearly have little to no understanding of how statistics work and think its ok to just throw around numbers and act like you can instantly prove everything in this way with a couple of tables and maybe a graph

2019-04-10 15:13:13 UTC  

If you aren't committed enough to put that effort in then you do not deserve to be able to say that the statistics prove your hypothesis

2019-04-10 15:14:20 UTC  

Right now all you're doing is throwing numbers at me, extrapolating the evidence with absolutely no proof of causation (only some highly questionable correlation) and acting as it it proves your racist agenda right

2019-04-10 15:14:26 UTC  

You haven’t even read the whole article yet, so what’s the point in this entire conversation?

2019-04-10 15:15:28 UTC  

Why deny me my right to live in all white communities?

2019-04-10 15:15:31 UTC  

The point with the conversation is that I didn't even have to read more than a fifth of the article to see that whoever wrote it clearly has no understanding of statistics or how to handle data and misinterprets it to make disingenuous claims that can lead to far right radicalisation

2019-04-10 15:15:48 UTC  

Who said you had a right to live in an all white community?

2019-04-10 15:16:08 UTC  

Do I have freedom of association?

2019-04-10 15:16:32 UTC  

If you deny others the right to live in the community that you live in based on their skin colour that's treading on their rights

2019-04-10 15:16:37 UTC  

jesus

2019-04-10 15:17:07 UTC  

What do you even mean by freedom of association

2019-04-10 15:17:14 UTC  

That could be interpreted in so many different ways

2019-04-10 15:18:49 UTC  

If you mean freedom to interact with only the people that you want to interact with then no you do not have freedom of association and neither does anyone else because it would be unimaginably impractical to ensure that nobody ever interacts with anyone that they don't want to interact with and its not a human right to be wrapped up in your little nationalistic alt right echo chamber like the intolerant little crybaby snowflake you are

2019-04-10 15:21:14 UTC  

Why not just drop the last conversation since according to you I’m not doing work to prove that mixed race children are inferior to non-mixed race children and you’re not even bothering to read either in its entirety.

So if I’m denied access to gay nightclub/bar because I’m straight. Is that not treading on my rights? By freedom of association in a Liberal society I mean that I have the freedom to interact with whomever I please and form communities socially and physically with those people and for those people alone. And within our community, we have the freedom to come and go as we please but those entering must not impeach our freedom by not being the demographic that the community desires to associate with.

2019-04-10 15:22:22 UTC  

Generally straight people aren't denies access to gay bars...

2019-04-10 15:22:29 UTC  

So why should you force me to associate with people I don’t want to when you obviously don’t want to associate with people like myself within your community?

2019-04-10 15:22:40 UTC  

Anyway I need to get on with other stuff cya

2019-04-10 15:22:45 UTC  

It’s happened before though.

2019-04-10 15:23:23 UTC  

Sure you do.

2019-04-10 15:24:29 UTC  

Well I mean unlike you seemingly I have a life outside of discord politics servers

2019-04-10 15:24:53 UTC  

If you want to know something more specific I have exams coming up and need to revise for them