Message from @The Lemon
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And I said I don’t care if some queer on the internet who is not a scientists finds as it non-scientific
Also you ask me what variables I'm talking about when I stated previously what variables I'm talking about
How can you tell me how I’m acting lol?
And if you can't see how bad nutrition would affect a baby's weight at birth you are a special kind of stupid
Its the impression I got from your rhetoric
Also I'm not gay and I am studying science at uni so you can fuck right off with your "queer non scientist" statement
Don't assume shit about me
There are white and black communities in America that are malnourished though. And the Federal government gives out food stamps to black families to fix such a problem regardless.
We wuz lead poisoned
We wuz starved
But we wuz Kangs and Sheiiiit
If you actually looked at the article you'd see the statistics were found in New York an urban area where poorer areas tend to be predominantly black rather than in the post industrial mid west where poorer areas tend to be predominantly white
And?
Therefore the areas with higher rates of malnutrition (the poorer areas) are likely to be predominantly black skewing the statistics for black babies being born underweight when that variable isn't controlled for
Do you need everything to be spelled out for you?
Ah, but are they malnourished as a failure of their own, and thus as group (race) or are they malnourished because of some conspiracy against black people? I mean, if both parents are working at least a minimum wage job, and if they receive food stamps, their children shouldn’t be malnourished, or at least not to a large extent, an extent of which does not disprove the thesis of the Article.
And you still haven’t made a comment of the actual study I cited.
I haven't had a chance to look at that, I don't read at the speed of light jesus
Remember your thesis was that race mixing doesn’t have any negative effects.
And your article doesn't prove that race mixing doesn't have any negative effects
The null hypothesis here is that race mixing does not have negative effects as there is no logical genetic reason for it to have negative effects
It proves that mixed race children have higher rates of infant mortality than white children especially. I didn’t say that racing mixing’s negative effects are genetic alone though. There are also negative social and psychological effects.
Also you talk about conspiracy against black people as if its something unrealistic while forgetting that there was government policies that stopped people of certain races from buying property in better off neighbourhoods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining
To say that it proves something you would have to firstly control those statistics for non-related variables like household income and nutrition, then you would have to ensure that appropriate sampling methods were used to ensure there was no bias in the data and finally you would have to perform some kind of hypothesis test to prove that assuming the null hypothesis these differences are significantly unlikely to prove a deviation from the null hypothesis you clearly have little to no understanding of how statistics work and think its ok to just throw around numbers and act like you can instantly prove everything in this way with a couple of tables and maybe a graph
If you aren't committed enough to put that effort in then you do not deserve to be able to say that the statistics prove your hypothesis
Right now all you're doing is throwing numbers at me, extrapolating the evidence with absolutely no proof of causation (only some highly questionable correlation) and acting as it it proves your racist agenda right
You haven’t even read the whole article yet, so what’s the point in this entire conversation?
Why deny me my right to live in all white communities?
The point with the conversation is that I didn't even have to read more than a fifth of the article to see that whoever wrote it clearly has no understanding of statistics or how to handle data and misinterprets it to make disingenuous claims that can lead to far right radicalisation
Who said you had a right to live in an all white community?
Do I have freedom of association?
If you deny others the right to live in the community that you live in based on their skin colour that's treading on their rights
jesus
What do you even mean by freedom of association
That could be interpreted in so many different ways
If you mean freedom to interact with only the people that you want to interact with then no you do not have freedom of association and neither does anyone else because it would be unimaginably impractical to ensure that nobody ever interacts with anyone that they don't want to interact with and its not a human right to be wrapped up in your little nationalistic alt right echo chamber like the intolerant little crybaby snowflake you are
Why not just drop the last conversation since according to you I’m not doing work to prove that mixed race children are inferior to non-mixed race children and you’re not even bothering to read either in its entirety.
So if I’m denied access to gay nightclub/bar because I’m straight. Is that not treading on my rights? By freedom of association in a Liberal society I mean that I have the freedom to interact with whomever I please and form communities socially and physically with those people and for those people alone. And within our community, we have the freedom to come and go as we please but those entering must not impeach our freedom by not being the demographic that the community desires to associate with.
Generally straight people aren't denies access to gay bars...
So why should you force me to associate with people I don’t want to when you obviously don’t want to associate with people like myself within your community?
Anyway I need to get on with other stuff cya
It’s happened before though.