Message from @Billcat
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...they've been in the chat for over an hour, and you responded to my final point
AAAAnd I've been active on the chat for about 5 minutes
So either you read my last point and responded to that, ignoring everything else I said, or you read it all...
I have a life outside of constantly checking this channel you know
As I said I've only had time to look at what I've looked at
Now can you let me say my point?
Ok, but logically, would you not start at the top and move down? And sure go ahead, I'm not stopping you
I mean I scrolled upwards from the newest message on the chat
And yeah back to my point
The alt righters always have you believe that all of this recent immigration is from muslim asian countries and North african countries
Like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Syria etc
Stop typing I haven't finished my point
How am I to know that...? You said something, I'm typing to respond to it
You entirely stopped typing so...
because I was referring back to my sources
So, if you look at those stats you can see (at a generous estimate as I'm including India which isn't a muslim country but does have muslims) if you add up the immigrants from asian countries with large muslim populations it comes to 1,644,000 in terms of people who are foreign born when there are 4,340,000 foreign born people in the country
thats 38%
however they are the only immigrants that the alt right ever talks about when talking about this "great replacement"
and they quote the straigt number of foreign born nationals which means that the numbers they are quoting incluedes Poles, Germans, Italians, Irish etc
Sure go for it
(52% of those foreign born people are european)
Obviously, I do not agree with the misquoting of statistics. However, I believe the reason that this 38% is brought up more often then the other EU countries immigrating is because these groups are incredibly problematic from a societal standard.
But the thing is they are not
Let me find some stats to back that up
Not because of race, but because of culture. I, for one, would sooner want to live in an entirely non white neighborhood of those with western values, willing to conform to western culture, then a neighborhood of whites who subscribe to the harmful ideologies that these non european immigrants bring with them.
I mean, I don't know the exact statistics, but I haven't heard of any, say, German immigrants in the UK who support Islamic Law being instituted in islamic neighborhoods, which includes the stoning to death of gays and rape victims
That's fair enough but its a massive over generalisation to say that these non-European immigrants bring "harmful ideologies" with them
What you're ignoring here is that those harmful ideaologies are often the reason these people flee the countries
Along with instability, war, better economic opportunities and the rest of it
Also a gay person has never been stoned to death in the UK
I don't think it is at all, because, if you look at the statistics, a large portion of these violent crimes being committed are being committed by these specific immigrants.
They aren't though
And that brings us back to the stats I was just looking for so give me a min
The problem is, these immigrants are not fleeing their countries and then adapting to life in the UK, they actively want the UK to conform to them
Many claim that they want to "fully integrate" however they never do. On large, it seems as if these specific immigrants are trying to bring the same issues that had them flee their country to european countries
Despite, when grouped together (Blacks, asians, mixed, etc) only making up 40% or so of the UK population, each group has a higher rate of arrests per 1,000 people than whites.
Now, these do not refer *specifically* to those of an immigrant origin, however they obviously show there is a definitive cultural problem.